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Old 01-16-2022, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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It’s an opinion piece.

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Old 01-16-2022, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Car insurance laws are tyranny? It seems to me that the arguments for requiring owner to insure motor vehicles would apply also to a firearm, or indeed any product that becomes deadly if aimed improperly.
Driving is a priviledge. Bearing a firearm is a Constitutional right.
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Old 01-16-2022, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Yes, mandatory car insurance is tyranny. The government telling you that you need to satisfy their requirements before engaging in individual behavior that does not initiate force is a bullet point in the definition of tyranny.

If you seek to protect yourself from others, then you should have insurance. If you seek to mitigate the financial costs should you inadvertently harm someone else, then you should have insurance. But insurance itself should not be mandatory to be "allowed" to drive a car.

Yes, I know my black and white position on natural rights and government invoking mandatory this and that seems extreme, but logical consistency seems extreme to people with little to no experience in it.


If they're gonna' have mandatory insurance for firearms, then why not apply that logic to any object or substance that could possibly injure, maim or kill someone? Matches, alcoholic beverages, power tools, flammable substances, skateboards, baseball bats, knives, golf clubs, cell phones etc. Guns are inanimate objects just as those items are. We already have laws both civil and criminal that address both the reckless and criminal misuse of firearms.

This is just a scheme to deny the average person from exercising a Constitutional right and relegate it to only those that can afford it. Not only that but you do not have to have car insurance to own a motor vehicle. Only when it's used on a public road. Comparing firearms to motor vehicles and imposing the same type of regulations is asinine. As are the people who suggest and advocate for it.


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“But to ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow. …
For society does not control crime, ever, by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. 
Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding.” Jeff Snyder

“A law which restricts the liberty of the innocent because of the behavior of the guilty, that rests on the principle that the conduct of criminals [or psychos] dictates the scope of liberty for the rest of society, in no sense ‘fights’ crime.”
For society has permitted its fear of crime, and craving for safety, to turn the force of law against the innocent and law-abiding. Far from fighting crime, the criminalization of otherwise innocent activities represents a society in retreat from crime. This is a society desperately accommodating itself to crime.”
— Jeff Snyder
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Old 01-16-2022, 11:59 AM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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What part of, "shall not be infringed upon", is so hard for the left to understand?
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Old 01-16-2022, 12:09 PM
 
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What part of, "shall not be infringed upon", is so hard for the left to understand?
They don't believe in the Constitution.
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Old 01-16-2022, 02:15 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Actually there are...the right to travel, driving is a method of travel.


There is a legal difference between 'driving' and 'traveling'...legally speaking, driving refers to commercial type driving....Traveling is when you or I get into the car to go to work, to the grocery store, etc.
Stay off your Sovereign Citizen websites. They'll only cause you heartache and, eventually, possible criminal charges. The right to "travel" does not imply the "right to drive" nor does "driving" only apply to commercial drivers.

https://www.findlaw.com/traffic/driv...to-travel.html
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Old 01-16-2022, 02:39 PM
 
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Criminals could care less about gun laws.
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Old 01-16-2022, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Who will buy this insurance on my .38 that was stolen from me 35 years ago?
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Old 01-16-2022, 03:02 PM
 
Location: HONOLULU
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Gun laws. 2nd amendment right. This is just that. Military loves this law because they purchase lots of guns through the internet without limitations. That shooting they had in Las Vegas, Mandalay Hotel, they were having a country concert, when a sniper shot at 50 something people. He was a military men. I think these gun laws does nothing more then dress up the law and place nice looking tabs to purchasing firearms. It won't stop anybody from purchasing a gun. In the wrong hands, a disaster like this waiting to happen again.
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Old 01-16-2022, 03:13 PM
 
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Actually there are...the right to travel, driving is a method of travel.


There is a legal difference between 'driving' and 'traveling'...legally speaking, driving refers to commercial type driving....Traveling is when you or I get into the car to go to work, to the grocery store, etc.

Travel is an unenumerated right.
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