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Old 01-26-2022, 09:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by suzy_q2010 View Post
In other words, the only difference is the label and they are using up existing vaccine before distributing vials labelled Comirnaty.

By "they" you mean the boys back at your home office at Pfizer?


I would question how long a vial is good for. It's been months that "they are using up old stock". Will any of the new stuff still be good? Why is Comirnaty available in Australia (where it's not governed by American liability laws)? Lots of questions.
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Old 01-26-2022, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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By "they" you mean the boys back at your home office at Pfizer?


I would question how long a vial is good for. It's been months that "they are using up old stock". Will any of the new stuff still be good? Why is Comirnaty available in Australia (where it's not governed by American liability laws)? Lots of questions.
I am not employed by Pfizer or any other pharmaceutical company.

Australia has different regulations apparently.

https://www.health.gov.au/initiative...e-in-australia

All that will change is the label. It's not as if they are slapping Comirnaty labels on vials before the older stock is distributed.
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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It has become jaw-droppingly amazing to me that even as more and more data is presented showing the "vaccines" to be not only largely ineffective at this point, but potentially harmful, the general population act as if those negative results are not even there. No curiosity, even. Just this blind trust. It really IS LIKE a religion. It's flabbergasting to me. Have any of you vaxophiles even so much as glanced at the data coming out if Israel? At all? ANY of it? It's SCIENCE (like you guys always claim to follow) and it certainly isn't flattering to the "vaccines" at all. In a logical society with logical thinkers, this "vaccine" would be STOPPED immediately before it does any more damage than it already has.
They are technically not even vaccines going by the old-school definition.

They are GENE-THERAPY medications for which we have no idea what kind of long-term damage it is doing to the body.
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:12 AM
 
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They are technically not even vaccines going by the old-school definition.

They are GENE-THERAPY medications for which we have no idea what kind of long-term damage it is doing to the body.
No, they are not, lol.
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Malaga Spain & Lady Lake, Florida
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What was the point for Pfizer to change the name/label of the vaccine? Why not just leave it alone?
Liability.

If they started to supply the authorized vaccine now they will be liable for any injuries or deaths that occur and they are aware there are many of these which would cost them billions.

Pfizer are seeking FDA authorization for children, if they get any vaccine approved for kids then they will never be liable for any injuries or deaths in children or adults due to a legal loophole granted for vaccines for children.

Follow the money.
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:37 AM
 
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Liability.

If they started to supply the authorized vaccine now they will be liable for any injuries or deaths that occur and they are aware there are many of these which would cost them billions.

Pfizer are seeking FDA authorization for children, if they get any vaccine approved for kids then they will never be liable for any injuries or deaths in children or adults due to a legal loophole granted for vaccines for children.

Follow the money.
Hmmm, you might want to read the link I posted. Slowly.
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:44 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Liability.

If they started to supply the authorized vaccine now they will be liable for any injuries or deaths that occur and they are aware there are many of these which would cost them billions...

No, they're not. Not until at least 2024.

Even the FDA approved PFizer vaccine is covered under CICP, not VICP like a "normal" vaccine would be.


...In February, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar invoked the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act. The 2005 law empowers the HHS secretary to provide legal protection to companies making or distributing critical medical supplies, such as vaccines and treatments, unless there’s “willful misconduct” by the company. The protection lasts until 2024.
That means that for the next four years, these companies “cannot be sued for money damages in court” over injuries related to the administration or use of products to treat or protect against Covid
...

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covi...n-lawsuit.html


As I posted earlier, go to the VICP website - it says right at the top that all COVID vaccines are still covered under the much less generous CICP program:

COVID-19 Claims
For claims associated with the COVID-19 vaccine or other COVID-19 related countermeasures, please file your Request for Benefits with the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program.

https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/index.html
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Malaga Spain & Lady Lake, Florida
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Hmmm, you might want to read the link I posted. Slowly.
I’m not sure what you want me to understand from your link ?

Suzy also posted a link which correctly states there is no FDA approved vaccine currently available., there isn’t anything to debate on this.
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Old 01-26-2022, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Malaga Spain & Lady Lake, Florida
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No, they're not. Not until at least 2024.

Even the FDA approved PFizer vaccine is covered under CICP, not VICP like a "normal" vaccine would be.


...In February, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar invoked the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act. The 2005 law empowers the HHS secretary to provide legal protection to companies making or distributing critical medical supplies, such as vaccines and treatments, unless there’s “willful misconduct” by the company. The protection lasts until 2024.
That means that for the next four years, these companies “cannot be sued for money damages in court” over injuries related to the administration or use of products to treat or protect against Covid
...

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covi...n-lawsuit.html


As I posted earlier, go to the VICP website - it says right at the top that all COVID vaccines are still covered under the much less generous CICP program:

COVID-19 Claims
For claims associated with the COVID-19 vaccine or other COVID-19 related countermeasures, please file your Request for Benefits with the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program.

https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/index.html
The vaccine manufacturers are exempt from all liability whilst their vaccines are under EUA.

People are being injured and dying from these vaccines and cannot get any help or compensation from the manufacturer.

You are correct that CICP is available to claimant’s but is limited in the amount it will grant and so far have paid out nothing to anyone injured or died since the vaccine rollout.

I’ve seen legal bills that would dwarf any payment that the CICP would offer if they ever payout which is highly unlikely.
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Old 01-26-2022, 11:02 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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The vaccine manufacturers are exempt from liability whilst their vaccines drugs are under EUA.

People are being injured and dying from these vaccines and cannot get any help or compensation from the manufacturer.

You are correct that CICP is available to claimant’s but is limited in the amount it will grant and so far have paid out nothing to anyone injured or died since the vaccine rollout.

I’ve seen legal bills that
COVID vaccine makers are exempt, even after FDA approval, thanks to Alex Azar and the PREP Act.
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