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Old 01-31-2022, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Hillarycare, which Rush Limbaugh correctly parodied well as "Womb to the Tomb".

My hunch is Bubba had to grant her control, so she would sing Stand By Your Man on 60 Minutes as his Intern Scandal erupted.

Starting 1/20/1995, Newt ran the country well.
Yeah.
Newt ran it very well for about a minute and a half, and then was forced to resign.

Right plans from the wrong person. I still can't understand why Newt cheated on his first wife and blew himself up so he could marry that strange alien he's stuck with now.

Love is blind; it must be.
Newt was really on a roll, and if he had just stuck with wife #1, I'm sure he would have been the leading Presidential contender in 2000.
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Old 01-31-2022, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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NAFTA was mostly crafted during the George HW Bush administration.

well it was negotiated under the liberal papa bush


but Clinton did a "full court press" to get it to pass congress




freetrade was started by the GLOBALIST LIBERALS.... started under carter

pushed and negotiated by globalist bush1

pushed and signed by globalist Clinton

expanded by globalist Clinton, globalist bush2, and globalist Obama (senator Obama even had his own freetrade agreement with Oman)

THE FREE-TRADE ACCORD; PRESIDENT BEGINS A LOBBYING BLITZ FOR TRADE ACCORD
By DOUGLAS JEHL,
Published: November 9, 1993

WASHINGTON, Nov. 8— President Clinton began an intensive face-to-face effort today to persuade lawmakers to throw their support behind the North American Free Trade Agreement as the White House added to his criticisms of labor unions who are the chief opponents of the accord.

Struggling to find the 218 votes he needs for the agreement's approval in the House of Representatives, Mr. Clinton met from morning until well into the night with pairs and small groups of Democratic members of Congress, nearly all of whom had not declared their position.

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THE FREE-TRADE ACCORD - PRESIDENT BEGINS A LOBBYING BLITZ FOR TRADE ACCORD - NYTimes.com
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NAFTA Engulfs Clinton Team - Defeat Would Be 'Catastrophic' - NYTimes.com
WASHINGTON— Sharpening an already intensive lobbying campaign on the North American Free Trade Agreement, top aides to President Bill Clinton issued dire warnings on Sunday to reach for last-minute congressional votes.

A failure by Congress to ratify the trade accord would be "catastrophic" for U.S. foreign policy, Vice President Al Gore said in a broadcast interview.

Trade Representative Mickey Kantor said rejection of NAFTA would be "shameful." He also defended the White House against assertions that votes were being secured by promises of federal largesse to individual lawmakers.

Treasury Secretary Lloyd Bentsen warned of "a real tragedy" in U.S.-Mexican relations if NAFTA fails, saying that Mexican politics would return to a era in which the United States was reviled.

Faced with considerable reluctance on the part of some Republicans, Mr. Clinton, a Democrat, promised to support them on the issue of NAFTA if a Democrat criticizes their votes in the 1994 election campaigns.

Mr. Gore reiterated the White House view that a defeat on NAFTA would be a blow to Mr. Clinton personally and to U.S. efforts to attain freer trade globally and in Asia.

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hmmm reluctance to pass NAFTA by the republicans, Clinton promised to SUPPORT them against the democrats......hmmm



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and as soon as nafta passed he went after CHINA

Clinton Puts a Foot In the Opening Door Of the Global Market - NYTimes.com

Such are the realities that Bill Clinton and his economic strategists have begun to acknowledge in a new vision of American relations with Asia -- a vision that Mr. Clinton spelled out forcefully at the meeting of Pacific leaders that concluded here this weekend. It is a vision that implies tradeoffs and job displacements far more wrenching than any posed by the North American Free Trade Agreement, which the Democrat controlled House approved last week after a Herculean display of Presidential persuasion.

Previous presidents have steered clear of the politically uncomfortable fact that Mr. Clinton addressed head-on on Friday: Creating a job for a factory worker in Seattle may first require creating six jobs in Jakarta. The new world order, Mr. Clinton suggested, seamlessly integrates security and economics. Indeed, he touted the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum -- the little-known economic consulting group under whose auspices the Pacific leaders gathered -- as something of a latter-day NATO. He said "our place in the world will be determined as much by the skills of our workers as by the strength of our weapons, as much by our ability to pull down foreign trade barriers as our ability to breach distant ramparts."

In political terms, of course, much of this oratory is about building on Nafta, Mr. Clinton's first big foreign policy win. Secretary of State Warren Christopher said Nafta should be the first out in a "triple play," one that now turns to economic integration of the Pacific and then to tearing down still more trade barriers under a new, much delayed global trade accord, which faces a deadline in mid-December.

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and he continued to EXPAND nafta...
Chile Is Admitted as North American Free Trade Partner - NYTimes.com

MIAMI, Dec. 11— President Clinton and the leaders of Canada and Mexico said today that they had agreed to admit Chile to the North American Free Trade Agreement, a move that clearly puts pressure on the other nations of South and Central America to speed the opening of their markets if they want expanded trade with the United States






and let's not forget there have been like 24 "freetrade" agreements...including OFTA, Senator Obama's deal with OMAN
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Old 01-31-2022, 06:57 PM
 
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NAFTA was mostly crafted during the George HW Bush administration.

and Bubba threw Gore under the bus promoting it. Thank God.
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Old 01-31-2022, 08:43 PM
 
Location: USA
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Why? Because a certain talk radio blowhard managed to gain a lot of mind-numbed followers..
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Old 01-31-2022, 09:04 PM
 
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the man most generally credited with our modern gutter divisive politics started his B$ and here we are accuse democrats of everything under the sun true or not dioesnt matter a republican creation that works thank newt gingrich
Don't drink and post.
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Old 01-31-2022, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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Clinton lost the House, the first time Democrats had lost the House in 40 years, because the Republicans, led by Newt Gingrich, laid out a comprehensive vision for America's future; the Contract With America.

They didn't dwell on how bad Clinton was, or complain about Hillary, they stayed focused, on message and articulated what they wanted to accomplish FOR America. It was the first time in memory that a Congressional election was "nationalized" and not as much about local issues for people.

I think the Republicans need to get busy now on presenting a vision for the future, not dwell on the past or on personalities.
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Old 01-31-2022, 09:25 PM
 
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Don't drink and post.

i havent had any mind or mood altering substances in 25 years, but i did live thru the period i speak of and i do know the republican version of events fits their agenda, so i gave up a long time ago wishing a poster or two would actually read real history and not rely on the right-wing versions that have existed for decades..
somebody else mentioned limbagh and he is equally guilty of bringing down political discourse to the level of barroom drunk, tough call



have a nice day sir
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Old 01-31-2022, 09:29 PM
 
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Periods are your friend.

i like to ramble
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Old 01-31-2022, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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i like to ramble
We noticed that.
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Old 01-31-2022, 11:04 PM
 
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We noticed that.

free speech, you know
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