Mike Pence: "President Trump is wrong." (Schumer, vote, problems)

[bergun]

I don’t see Trump doing the usual “shark attack” on Pence. Tramp has already stated that they talked and basically agreed to disagree.

I’m a supporter of Trump, but still respect Pence, but I don’t see him as a Presidential candidate in 2024. We need another bull in the glass shop to balance things back out, both in the country and globally. As of today, I’m about 80% sure that I’ll be voting for Trump, but I still hold a 20% reservation on that, in case he becomes too mean spirited, now and up to November 2024. I’m hoping for basically the same Trump, but more refined, due to some real experience with hard lessons that he had to learn.

I hope he gives some hints to who may be part of his Administration.

I fully expect the US media and big tech to go into full attack mode and cities to burn again, but I refuse to coward to the threats of lawlessness because of who “I” vote for. Honestly, if the media and big tech attempt to screw him over, while giving the DNC’s choice a free pass, that will lock me into a vote for Trumps since I hate dirty tricks and lies.

[Taratova]

Fact is there was illegal voting because the rules were changed illegally and Trump wanted to show how the legislature was suppose to have input in the laws being changed and it was illegal to change laws at the last minute . In some areas their was 300 % more votes cast than there was registered voters. In some areas Zuckerberg bought votes and ballot stuffing was overplayed. They had 50 votes cast from one address. Addresses from office buildings were used. When the dems cheat for money they can cast many illegal ballots thinking how rich they will get. One woman promised 5000 votes for $50,000 .

[Rocko20]

If Pence doesn’t like Trump, he shouldn’t have accepted the 6 figure salary and VP selection.

He knew what he signed up for.

[Justabystander]

Originally Posted by DrPibbs

Am I really the only person who likes Pence? I'd vote for him 2024.

I don't know. All I know is that Pence was Trump's lapdog until January 6, when Trump's "patriots" tried to kill him and hung a noose outside the Capitol symbolically aimed at him. Now, and only now, after Trump again spread his signature venom over Pence, did Pence finally get a backbone and call out the truth. Pence is really no better than the rest of them doing the right thing so late in the game.

[Oklazona Bound]

Originally Posted by Justabystander

I don't know. All I know is that Pence was Trump's lapdog until January 6, when Trump's "patriots" tried to kill him and hung a noose outside the Capitol symbolically aimed at him. Now, and only now, after Trump again spread his signature venom over Pence, did Pence finally get a backbone and call out the truth. Pence is really no better than the rest of them doing the right thing so late in the game.

I think Pence was holding on to the hope of running for POTUS in 2024. So avoiding saying much about Jan 6th was his strategy. Hoping it would die down and the whole thing forgotten. Pence is a politician. That is what politicians do. Perhaps he realizes now he has zero chance winning any election anywhere so he decided to tell the truth. Legacy is the other thing politicians care about.


So no, he is no better than "them" he is just one of them.

[Pryvete]

Pence had the capacity to not certify the election until issues were thoroughly analysed pertaining to state electoral process legality (something which I understand Congress is right now trying to have federalised), chain of custody ascertainment, origin and authenticity of mail in ballots, and assessment of why myriads of unaccounted ballot dumps almost exclusively for one candidate emerged. In one county of Georgia alone you have an elections official admitting that CoC documents are missing from enough absentee ballot forms to exceed the margin of purported victory by 6,000 votes. It's probably much more than that and you have some estimations of up to 100,000 ballots missing CoC in that state alone but you get the point.

[Boss]

Wrong on all points^

[wrecking ball]

Originally Posted by Pryvete

Pence had the capacity to not certify the election until issues were thoroughly analysed ....

this belief is contradicted by the "safe harbor" deadline:


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ss-republicans

[natalie469]

Originally Posted by Pryvete

Pence had the capacity to not certify the election until issues were thoroughly analysed pertaining to state electoral process legality (something which I understand Congress is right now trying to have federalised), chain of custody ascertainment, origin and authenticity of mail in ballots, and assessment of why myriads of unaccounted ballot dumps almost exclusively for one candidate emerged. In one county of Georgia alone you have an elections official admitting that CoC documents are missing from enough absentee ballot forms to exceed the margin of purported victory by 6,000 votes. It's probably much more than that and you have some estimations of up to 100,000 ballots missing CoC in that state alone but you get the point.

That's just not true. Where do you guys get this info from. Vice presidents preside over the certification of results but they cannot intervene. It's purely ceremonial for them.

[cuebald]

Originally Posted by Pryvete

Pence had the capacity to not certify the election until issues were thoroughly analysed pertaining to state electoral process legality (something which I understand Congress is right now trying to have federalised), chain of custody ascertainment, origin and authenticity of mail in ballots, and assessment of why myriads of unaccounted ballot dumps almost exclusively for one candidate emerged. In one county of Georgia alone you have an elections official admitting that CoC documents are missing from enough absentee ballot forms to exceed the margin of purported victory by 6,000 votes. It's probably much more than that and you have some estimations of up to 100,000 ballots missing CoC in that state alone but you get the point.

Nope. That’s just BS from Donald Trump’s nether regions. Pence’s role after the states certify the election is entirely ceremonial. At that point all objections are considered resolved.