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Old 05-26-2022, 10:32 AM
 
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This is impractical. In this type of situation, it's better to have Officers inside than a drone that will be stymied by pretty much any door.
I think if officers needed to know where he was before going in, they could have used a drone to fly around outside of the windows to find out where he was and then actually gone in instead of standing around outside while children were being slaughtered.

 
Old 05-26-2022, 10:43 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Does anybody know how the shooter got into the school so easily?

Why was the door unlocked?
This reminds me of how I once failed a military inspection because I left loose change in my desk drawer. Because you left unsecured loose change, you've encouraged theft!
 
Old 05-26-2022, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Video of cops refusing to go in and actually prevent citizens from entering

https://twitter.com/i/status/1529652093354536961
No surprise. The police are not there to protect, they are there to control people. Yet people want to hire more of them.
 
Old 05-26-2022, 10:48 AM
 
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Too bad the teachers and the slaughtered kids were not in possession of a gun that day. This could have all been prevented.






A person who spoke on condition of anonymity said Border Patrol had trouble opening the locked door and a staff member had to get a key. The bolded was in the Fox article quoted above. I'm still trying to determine if the locked doors were the doors to the school or to the classrooms. Does anyone know if the outside doors to the school were open or locked when the gunman went into the building?
I have read that all of the outside doors were locked but one, but no explanation as to why the door was unlocked.
 
Old 05-26-2022, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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If a cop is not willing to take risks to save innocent lives, then it begs the question of "Why even have cops at all?" It appears that the motto "To Serve and Protect" is a misnomer. Perhaps they should change it to "Don't Call Me About YOUR Problem".
Unfortunately the people who want to defund them, keep getting over ruled by the people who what to hire more of them.
 
Old 05-26-2022, 10:52 AM
 
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This reminds me of how I once failed a military inspection because I left loose change in my desk drawer. Because you left unsecured loose change, you've encouraged theft!
No. The purpose of that military drill is attention to detail. You were not supposed to have loose change or anything in your desk drawer that wasn't allowed in the drill inspection because the purpose of the drill was to follow details to the smallest thing. That is boot camp/basic training in the military. To work as a unit and attention to details before they send you off the fleet or field with multi-million dollars in equipment working with season professionals on the field.

For you being veteran you really are confused on the drill. Once you were out of boot camp/basic training nobody gave a damn if you left loose change in your drawer or made your bed in the standards of boot camp.


How you mix that with this is laughable. So because you take showers with naked men together in training that is the excuse to rape them? everybody should have their own private showers in training because We don't want sex and rape between them?
 
Old 05-26-2022, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Time for real school security reform and put people to work with real jobs. Biden just sent an additional 800 million to Ukraine for their security and this is on top of what We already sent them and the rest of the world. Time to put Americans first.
Yeah, let's throw away the world's freedom, so we can hire more worthless cops who have no duty to protect anyone, and who will not protect anyone except themselves. Brilliant plan.
 
Old 05-26-2022, 10:59 AM
 
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Why did the police in Uvalde, TX wait 40 to 60 minutes before going in to take out the shooter? They were hot in his trail since they were chasing him prior to the shooting. It seems that some action taken promptly may have saved nearly two dozen innocent lives plus prevented wounding of other innocent people.

I realize it takes time for a SWAT team to arrive and to formulate a plan, but when lives are at stake and minutes count, prompt action, even if imperfect, is called for. Waiting to formulate a perfect plan is tantamount to doing nothing at all... which is basically what the cops did for nearly an hour. If someone is drowning, a rescuer doesn't have time to build a boat. He must use whatever resources are available on the spot.

Yes, it's dangerous to confront a shooter who has demonstrated that he is willing and able to shoot back, but I thought that was part of the job description for law enforcement officers.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-sch...lice-go-inside
The cops are cowards. If it were not for the border patrol officer more would be dead.
 
Old 05-26-2022, 10:59 AM
 
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You are correct, there is a great deal of similarities between this War and the US Iraq War. Instead of WMD as justification to invade Iraq....Russia created Neo-Nazi's as a justification to invade Ukraine, Nazi's are the WMD's of this war. As I pointed out earlier it's interesting that the number of Nazi's in Ukraine is commensurate with the coal deposits. The Donbas has one of the largest coal deposits in the world. Iraq has one of the largest oil deposits in the world. NATO did not support the Iraq War due to divisions and the American Public turned against the War and it resulted in an electoral regime change in 2008. That's because the US is a Liberal Democracy....flawed...yes...but a liberal democracy not the less. Putin's Russia has now become a Totalitarian state....very similar to Mussolini, Hitler, even Stalin. Putin feels entitled to have a land bridge in the Black Sea....Hitler felt entitled to Austria and the Sudetenland of Czechoslovakia...and then he was appeased. We said...Never Again....this is one of those moments.
Perhaps the Iraq invasion didnt have a lot of international support but the US didnt pull out of Iraq for another 12 years after 2008. So being a liberal democracy didnt do much to stop the US military industrial complex from getting 12 more years of $1 trillion+ military budgets which is why the US goes to war.

I think this invasion made it clear that Russia doesnt have the ability to jump from nation to nation invading. It also makes clear that the US should be selling defensive weapons to a whole lot of nations. The more difficult it is for one nation to invade another, the better and the US should be involved as little as possible at that point.

Anyway, if we just would have helped create a situation where Russia goes in and take the eastern provinces and a little more strategic area but cant capture more, that would have been a big win for us. The problem would have been stopping Russia there without substantially helping Ukraine fend them off from invading other areas. Either way, Russia taking Ukraine wouldnt have any importance to America as long as it was kept to Ukraine, so shore up the defenses of other nations especially NATO nations. This prolonged war is not only bad for the US but it is bad for Ukraine. It isnt worth having your nation destroyed to prevent a new management company from coming in. The Russian government isnt so much worse than the Ukrainian government. so them taking over isnt a big deal.
 
Old 05-26-2022, 11:02 AM
 
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I have the feeling then some conspiracy theorists might ponder some theories about that unlocked door if they didn't already.
There was some documentation that there was a plot to have a shooting at the school back in 2018 I think it was. Someone posted it on this or a related thread. Quite a coincidence.
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