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Old 02-23-2022, 11:00 PM
 
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Ukraine signed a agreement with both Russia and the United states. In exchange for them surrendering their nuclear weapons, both Russia and the US agreed to respect their national boundaries.

Obviously this deal has not been held up by the Russian side. To me it seems fair to return or replace the nuclear weapons that were taken.
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Old 02-23-2022, 11:02 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Ukraine signed a agreement with both Russia and the United states. In exchange for them surrendering their nuclear weapons, both Russia and the US agreed to respect their national boundaries.
What agreement was that? Title, date, place?
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Old 02-23-2022, 11:03 PM
 
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What agreement was that? Title, date, place?
Budapest memorandum 1994

Wikipedia has a reasonable overview, and links to the specifics as well:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budape...ity_Assurances
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Old 02-23-2022, 11:09 PM
 
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Ukraine signed a agreement with both Russia and the United states. In exchange for them surrendering their nuclear weapons, both Russia and the US agreed to respect their national boundaries.

Obviously this deal has not been held up by the Russian side. To me it seems fair to return or replace the nuclear weapons that were taken.

Once these monkeys with grenades mentioned couple of days ago that that's their next plan, ( to develop the nuclear weapons,) Putin said "we've heard you."


And that's what happened today.
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Old 02-23-2022, 11:13 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Once you've taken that step you have lost control of some nukes. It's a step that needs to be very carefully considered from all angles.
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Old 02-23-2022, 11:17 PM
 
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Let's give nukes to an unstable corrupt government that jails their political opponents that can have a coup de tat any day.
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Old 02-23-2022, 11:21 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Did the U.S. take any nukes away from Ukraine?

Did the U.S. ever have any nukes in Ukraine?
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Old 02-23-2022, 11:22 PM
 
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What agreement was that? Title, date, place?
This can't be a serious question...
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Old 02-23-2022, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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We need less nukes in the world, not more nukes.
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Old 02-24-2022, 12:01 AM
 
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Its funny how some posters:
Argued that Ukraine may have been developing nukes, thus justifying this-while ignoring the entire topic, that Ukraine HAD nukes, and gave them up.

Or argued that we need LESS nukes, while failing to apparently understand that by Russia attacking a country that had given up its nukes in exchange for guarantees......means that no one in their right mind will now EVER give up their nukes. Look how its worked for Ukraine.
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