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Old 03-03-2022, 04:28 AM
 
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More apologetics to NOT want Trump to have blame. I mean blaming Bolton? Like Trump takes none? Trump went to Europe and demeaned our Allies DEMOCRATICALLY elected leaders and boosted with esteem with flattering luv and RESPECT to dictators as Putin and the Saudi leader and even his boy in N Korea.

Sure use leverage to push Europe to pay more for its defense and clearly get that point in. Trump went in disrespecting all of them leaving them clearly not knowing what hit them. A hey... we are your Allies NOT Russia. That was not diplomacy. It was like when Khrushchev pounded his fist and threatened with his shoe in protest against a speech critical of Soviet policy in Eastern Europe. Trump basically did that in his demeaning of our NATO leaders.

https://www.history.com/.amp/this-da...united-nations

Tried to twist the arm of the Ukraine leader as a mob boss and held back $$$ cause his arm-twisting got Trump nada.

No way to spin this as Great and Powerful diplomacy that gave America more respect. NATO was seen by Trump needing to be slapped around and them to know Putin was the superior leader and REAL Alpha vs their leaders. Putin got Trumps luv with greatness by securing a Nations power as Trump wanted to in America. A FULLY controlled America with Trump as head as Putin built in Russia in his dictatorship-type control.

Russia could not rid itself of Putin. He secured the power. America PREVENTED Trump from fully overpowering America as Putin attained. That was and is Trump's dream.

Seems that Putin needed less being seen as a god and loved. He lusted for the power and control alone. Trump needed love of a full base yet LACKED loyalty of his appointees once they knew the REAL Trump. Most acted loyal while under Trumps grip. Once not ... they began to tell the truth of the real man. Not as knowledgeable or self-secured as his Alpha exterior was to give the impression of.

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Old 03-03-2022, 04:33 AM
 
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More apologetics to NOT want Trump to have blame. I mean blaming Bolton? Like Trump takes none? Trump went to Europe and demeaned our Allies DEMOCRATICALLY elected leaders and boosted with esteem with flattering luv and RESPECT to dictators as Putin and the Saudi leader and even his boy in N Korea.

Tried to twist the arm of the Ukraine leader as a mob boss and held back $$$ cause his arm-twisting got Trump nada.

No way to spin this as Great and Powerful diplomacy that gave America more respect. NATO was seen by Trump needing to be slapped around and them to know Putin was the superior leader and REAL Alpha vs their leaders. Putin got Trumps luv with greatness by securing a Nations power as Trump wanted to in America. A FULLY controlled America with Trump as head as Putin built in Russia in his dictatorship-type control.

Russia could not rid itself of Putin. He secured the power. America PREVENTED Trump from fully overpowering America as Putin attained. That was and is Trump's dream.

Seems that Putin needed less being seen as a god and loved. He lusted for the power and control alone. Trump needed love of a full base yet LACKED loyalty of his appointees once they knew the REAL Trump. Most acted loyal while under Trumps grip. Once not ... they began to tell the truth of the real man. Not as knowledgeable or self-secured as his Alpha exterior was to give the impression of.
Remember when the Obombya admin overturned the democratically elected Govt of Ukraine?
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Old 03-03-2022, 04:41 AM
 
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More apologetics to NOT want Trump to have blame. I mean blaming Bolton? Like Trump takes none? Trump went to Europe and demeaned our Allies DEMOCRATICALLY elected leaders and boosted with esteem with flattering luv and RESPECT to dictators as Putin and the Saudi leader and even his boy in N Korea..
How did Trump "demeaned" our allies? Be specific. Trump didn't make our allies dependent on Russia's oil. That was Obama, Biden and Kerry. Europe's energy is tied to Russia thanks to them 3 clowns.

Obama called Putin a "Great Leader" but I guess that doesn't count, huh? Obama is so smart. Nobel Peace Prize winner.


Funny, the U.S. supports 77% of the world's dictators before Trump and after Trump. Biden supplies Saudi Arabia weapons for their genocide in Yemen but crickets from the U.S. media and the democrat party.
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Old 03-03-2022, 04:46 AM
 
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Because Trump was able to keep the peace with foreign leaders and Putin had 4 years to do something while because Trump was in office. Instead, he attacked while under weak Sleepy Joe and for the second time Biden was in charge, albeit last time with Obuma.



Trumpism is another religion. People will still believe, even while being burned at the stake.
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Old 03-03-2022, 04:48 AM
 
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Trumpism is another religion. People will still believe, even while being burned at the stake.

and what do you call Obama and Biden? Science? You voted for them and believed them. Haven't you felt the burn yet? Aren't you extra crispy yet or want to be burn a lot darker?
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Old 03-03-2022, 04:54 AM
 
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It was 100% predictable that Bolton would trash Trump. He didn't like being hired just to make a statement, and being fired without having any of his advice taken must've been hugely insulting.

Trump never cared about Bolton's opinion - he hired him to signal that he'd be willing to drop bombs, if necessary. Everyone knows who Bolton is and what he wants, and it's that knowledge that Trump was playing off of when he brought Bolton on. Bolton didn't like being a pawn.
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Old 03-03-2022, 04:57 AM
 
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It's very simplistic to think that because it didn't happen while Trump was if office, that it means Putin was scared of Trump. Tell me what Putin thought Trump would do that Biden wouldn't. You tell me why Putin didn't invade under Trump.
The cope is real.
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Old 03-03-2022, 05:03 AM
 
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Obama, Biden and Kerry sells out America and Europe for Russia's oil and make Putin richer and bolder but Trump is the traitor for doing the opposite. Democrats crack me up.
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Old 03-03-2022, 05:08 AM
 
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How did Trump "demeaned" our allies? Be specific. Trump didn't make our allies dependent on Russia's oil. That was Obama, Biden and Kerry. Europe's energy is tied to Russia thanks to them 3 clowns.

Obama called Putin a "Great Leader" but I guess that doesn't count, huh? Obama is so smart. Nobel Peace Prize winner.

Funny, the U.S. supports 77% of the world's dictators before Trump and after Trump. Biden supplies Saudi Arabia weapons for their genocide in Yemen but crickets from the U.S. media and the democrat party.
You hate Obama and love Trump. That is fine. Many of us wanted to luv a Trump in 2016. Not all of us saw a strong Alpha as others.

Anyway, even the HILL News link a very Conservative one. Acknowledged Trumps European leaders not given respect.

Title:
https://thehill.com/opinion/national...ed-in-nato?amp

What they wrote Dec 2019.
So NATO's leaders poked fun at Donald Trump. He deserved it. He has demeaned several of them, as well as the institution itself. But that does not mean that he did not accomplish anything at the London NATO summit, which his many detractors, particularly commentators who are officially or unofficially connected with one of his Democratic rivals, prefer to overlook.

Certainly, Vladimir Putin helped to energize several NATO states. Yet not all 29 members of the Alliance have seen a revanchist Russia as a direct threat to their interests, and some, such as Hungary and Turkey, have sufficiently warm relations with Moscow as to prompt considerable unease among the Baltic states and Poland in particular, for whom Russia looms as a constant menace.


They gave Trump credit to push NATO Nations to grow and pay 2% of their Gross Domestic Product. THAT TIME HAD COME AND NEEDED TO BE DONE. Trump though went in as a Khruchev who literally pounded his fist and Trump got personal lessening its male leaders as less then men and female leader as weak also.

Anyway, THE HILL was making apologetics on how Trump ACTED IN EUROPE claiming his intent but acknowledging his insults, was NOT how to do it

We saw the photos too. The infamous arms crossed and that face with his chin raised while NATO leaders were around him.

Still the praising of Putin as THE MAN OF FULL TRUMP RESPECT AND NONE OF THE NATO LEADERS, Trump projected. Even the incident of Trump mocking the new Southeast Asian mayor of London had the Brits and leader not pleased and totally off the wall.

NATO did see THEY FELT THEY COULD NOT DEPEND on a Trump presidency to have their back. They had to gain more independence from the US.
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Old 03-03-2022, 06:25 AM
 
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Trumpism is another religion. People will still believe, even while being burned at the stake.
That discrimination fits Obamaism, more then “Trumpism”. Until Trump, the Democrats admired Russia and didn’t like it when President Reagan referred to Russia as the evil empire the Democrats mocked him for that.
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