John Bolton pushes back newsmax host claim of Trump was very tough on Putin with He barely knew where Ukraine even was. (Iran, ethics)

[Joe the Photog]

Originally Posted by Ted Bear

I would like to see Romney run and think there is a good chance that he will. Who else could take leadership of America and fill the huge void?

I doubt the current version of the GOP lets Romney get out of the primaries. He's too far to the center and away from the fringes for them now. The GOP had a chance to go normal with John Kasich in 2016 and chose the guy who had been on TV instead.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Joe the Photog

Where have I defended Biden? I didn't vote for Biden in '20 nd won't vote for him in '24. ou see the world in two lights -- Trump or not Trump. That's on you.

By insisting because Trump isn’t the reason why Putin waited for years to attack.

Nah, you blaming because Trump for most anything possible, especially when he hasn’t been in office for over a year, is certainly on you. Putin attacking under Sleepy Joe because he knows how weak he is, especially after doing it before, is as “simplistic” as it gets. Unfortunate that Sleepy Joe couldn’t keep the peace like because Trump did.

Sleepy Joe won’t make it to 2024 so you certainly won’t be given the choice to, and even if he did, they’d never wheelchair him back out there with what he’s caused this last year. Dems have dug their own grave for midterms and the WH with the clown show he’s put on.

[Oklazona Bound]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Because Trump was able to keep the peace with foreign leaders and Putin had 4 years to do something while because Trump was in office. Instead, he attacked while under weak Sleepy Joe and for the second time Biden was in charge, albeit last time with Obuma.

I agree Biden is weak and pathetic but Trump supporters are reading too much into the timing of this attack by Putin. It probably would have happened in Trump's second term. I see nothing to indicate Putin would have been afraid to attack Ukraine if Trump was still POTUS. Trump was in awe of Putin. Trump to Putin was simply a useful speed bump. Biden to Putin I am sure is just a joke.

And Bolton. The architect of the WMD scam in Iraq. I don't really trust the guy but some odd reason Trump hired him. Apparently because he liked him on Fox News. That being said Bolton is saying what everyone else who worked for Trump has said. Trump had a limited understanding of history and geography. And fought tooth and nail to limit Russian sanctions. No doubt all of that is true.

[Joe the Photog]

Originally Posted by erieguy

By insisting because Trump isn’t the reason why Putin waited for years to attack.

Spoiler alert. Just because I don't like one guy does not mean I do like the other. Trump was a disgrace as president regardless of how badly I may think Biden is doing. Both are possible when you judge them on their merits and not because o what party they belong to. Your mileage may vary.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Ted Bear

America would gladly get behind a strong, smart, dynamic capable leader. But who are the Dems, or Repubs for that matter, going to run? The Dotard again? Desantis? The clown from Texas....

I would like to see Romney run and think there is a good chance that he will. Who else could take leadership of America and fill the huge void?

Because Trump or DeSantis would be wonderful, even better on the same ticket…but it won’t matter what Republican runs. Dems have hindered themselves to greatly to come back so many debacles and plummeting approval ratings.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Joe the Photog

Spoiler alert. Just because I don't like one guy does not mean I do like the other. Trump was a disgrace as president regardless of how badly I may think Biden is doing. Both are possible when you judge them on their merits and not because o what party they belong to. Your mileage may vary.

Nah, because Trump was wonderful. He simply made the mistake of hurting sensitive folks feelings and posting mean tweets…although with what we’ve seen the past year it’s a blessing in disguise. So many folks have seen the error of their ways in voting for a demented old man that has no idea what he’s doing.

Lol. Except you’re blaming because Trump yet Sleepy Joe is in charge.

[eddie gein]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Sure you don’t. Why didn’t Putin attack while because Trump was in charge?

The answer here is fairly simple. Trump was constantly criticizing NATO and jacking with it. Calling it obsolete and such. Ukraine wasn't getting into NATO while Trump was in office. Under Biden it would be a real possibility.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by eddie gein

The answer here is fairly simple. Trump was constantly criticizing NATO and jacking with it. Calling it obsolete and such. Ukraine wasn't getting into NATO while Trump was in office. Under Biden it would be a real possibility.

Possibilities don’t mean anything. Bottom line is this is the second time he’s attacked under Sleepy Joe, and Sleepy Joe couldn’t keep the peace. Putin preyed on the weak.

[TOkidd]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Because Trump was able to keep the peace with foreign leaders and Putin had 4 years to do something while because Trump was in office. Instead, he attacked while under weak Sleepy Joe and for the second time Biden was in charge, albeit last time with Obuma.

Of course he attacked when his ally was not president. He also did not attack when Yanukovych was president of Ukraine for the same reason - you don’t need to attack when you are getting everything you want.

Trump gave Putin everything he wanted, so there was no reason to attack. Obama and Biden are not beholden to Putin and so that is why he attacked when they were and are president.

Shall I copy the list again with all the examples of how Trump is compromised by Moscow? Maybe I will:


Trump’s a traitor
1. You know, there's pretty much no evidence that Trump has ties to Russia, except for the...
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7. [Flynn Thing](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...htmlstory.html)
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10. [Manafort Thing](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...-manafort-days)
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13. [Tillerson Thing](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.e0ac214bd9bc)
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16. [Sessions Thing](http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...ussian-n767096)
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19. [Kushner Thing](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...r-and-manafort)
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22. [Wray Thing](http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opini...712-story.html)
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25. [Morgan, Lewis, & Bockius "Russian Law Firm of the Year" Thing](http://nypost.com/2017/05/12/trump-u...-his-finances/)
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28. [Carter Page Thing](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.24d0b138db83)
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31. [Roger Stone Thing](http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...stponed-240568)
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40. [Rosneft Thing](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/102603214/)
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43. [Gazprom Thing (see above)](http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/30/tr...ed-in-gazprom/)
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46. [Sergey Gorkov banker Thing](http://www.newsweek.com/sergey-gorko...kushner-617422)
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58. ["I Love Putin" Thing]( http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/...ssia-timeline/)
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70. [Gingrich Kislyak Phone Calls Thing]( http://www.palmerreport.com/politics...meetings/3504/)
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75. [Emoluments Clause Thing]( https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...81c_story.html)
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78. [Alex Schnaider Thing]( http://theweek.com/speedreads/699538...ce-trump-hotel)
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81. [Hack of the DNC Thing]( http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-for-russia-i/)
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84. [Guccifer 2.0 Thing]( https://theintercept.com/2017/07/14/...ey-difference/)
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87. [Mike Pence "I don't know anything" Thing](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ing/101831354/)
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90. [Russians Mysteriously Dying Thing](http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2...t-dnt-erin.cnn)
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93. [Trump's public request to Russia to hack Hillary's email Thing](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/u...on-emails.html)
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104. [The Trump email server that regularly communicated with a IP address from Russian Alfa Bank thing](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...trump-campaign)
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107. [Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king Thing](http://www.miamiherald.com/news/busi...135187364.html)
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110. [Russian fertilizer king's plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign Thing](http://www.charlotteobserver.com/new...137881768.html)
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113. [Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night Thing](http://www.businessinsider.com/nunes...illance-2017-3)
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116. [Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery Thing](http://www.business2community.com/go...HKSgDxcmIOQ.97)
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119. [The create a joint cyber defense agreement with Russia Thing](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/16/tr...ecurity-group/)
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125. [Trump not Releasing his Tax Returns Thing](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/politi...rns/index.html)
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128. [The Republican Party's rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing]( http://thehill.com/policy/finance/32...ps-tax-returns)
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131. [Election Hacking Thing]( http://time.com/4828306/russian-hack...-private-data/)
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134. [GOP platform change to the Ukraine Thing](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/jd-g...aine-amendment)
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140. [Sally Yates Can't Testify Thing](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...c57_story.html)
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143. [Intelligence Community's Investigative Reports Thing](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...2016-campaign/)
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152. [Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all "fake news" Thing](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ssia-collusion)
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179. [Let's Fire Comey Thing](http://www.npr.org/2017/05/10/527744...iring-of-comey)
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[Oklazona Bound]

Originally Posted by Joe the Photog

Spoiler alert. Just because I don't like one guy does not mean I do like the other. Trump was a disgrace as president regardless of how badly I may think Biden is doing. Both are possible when you judge them on their merits and not because o what party they belong to. Your mileage may vary.

That is how I see it. Unless we demand better people running for office we will be stuck with one loser after another. I liked most of Trump's policies just he made everything so much more difficult. You throw people under the bus, often from your own party and then expect them to help you pass important legislation, that does not work. So many things from Trump's term went unfinished and it did not have to be that way.