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If Putin fires a single shot across the Polish border, NATO will obliterate the entire Russian military. He won't stand a chance against NATO. He has trouble conquering Ukraine for crying out loud.
Thinking like this is why Hitler could not conquer Russia, in WWII.
Or why Gen. Custer got wiped out at Little Big Horn.
You NEVER UNDERESTIMATE your enemys strength or numbers.
Thats the problem. When you mistake the reasonable fear of nuclear devastation as a weakness. Once the nukes start flying talking time is over until both sides know why nukes are bad.
The problem is nukes. People seem to forget about that. The only peole that can take out Putin is Russians. They just have to be willing to die for it. It sucks but that's the reality. Either hundreds of Russians die trying to take out Putin or 90 million people die from nuclear war.
That's not true.
The world's nuclear arsenal contains many tactical nuclear weapons that aren't powerful enough to singly wipe a large city off the map. They're designed to kill troops and equipment and spare civilians.
The only reason why none have never been used is the fallout they create. Back in the 1950s, some were deployed with some of our own troops exposed intentionally, just to gauge how bad the exposure to fallout actually was on ground forces.
That happened before the industry learned how to miniaturize nuclear weaponry. Our modern strategic missiles don't pack one huge punch; each carries a dozen smaller punches designed to spread out over a wider area, all timed to go off at once. This magnifies the nuclear force by several orders.
But just one of those little warheads is more than enough to kill the heart of any city, where all the government's centers are. And their fallout will kill fewer people.
Just like conventional warfare, nuclear warfare has many intermediate steps between tactical battles and all-out national war. Fallout is a part of the tactical use, so it has been well considered, measured, and prepared for.
Using the tactical nukes would be similar to the gas attacks of WWI on a much more brutal scale- terror weapons that have some defenses for the opposing armies' protection. Local civilians would suffer more from fallout than the troops.
The goal of all wars is to gain control over the opposition by force of arms and force of will.
It's never to extinguish the opposition from the face of the earth.
I can envision Putin using a tactical nuke on Ukraine's army. Or he might strike an operational carrier group that's attacking his forces.
And I think NATO would respond accordingly, but would restrain from strategic total destruction.
For both sides, the tactical nukes would be the weapon of last resort. For sure, they would end the war.
Last edited by banjomike; 03-03-2022 at 11:44 PM..
The world's nuclear arsenal contains many tactical nuclear weapons that aren't powerful enough to singly wipe a large city off the map. They're designed to kill troops and equipment and spare civilians.
The only reason why none have never been used is the fallout they create. Back in the 1950s, some were deployed with some of our own troops exposed intentionally, just to gauge how bad the exposure to fallout actually was on ground forces.
That happened before the industry learned how to miniaturize nuclear weaponry. Our modern strategic missiles don't pack one huge punch; each carries a dozen smaller punches designed to spread out over a wider area, all timed to go off at once. This magnifies the nuclear force by several orders.
But just one of those little warheads is more than enough to kill the heart of any city, where all the government's centers are. And their fallout will kill fewer people.
Just like conventional warfare, nuclear warfare has many intermediate steps between tactical battles and all-out national war. Fallout is a part of the tactical use, so it has been well considered, measured, and prepared for.
Using the tactical nukes would be similar to the gas attacks of WWI on a much more brutal scale- terror weapons that have some defenses for the opposing armies' protection. Local civilians would suffer more from fallout than the troops.
The goal of all wars is to gain control over the opposition by force of arms and force of will.
It's never to extinguish the opposition from the face of the earth.
I can envision Putin using a tactical nuke on Ukraine's army. Or he might strike an operational carrier group that's attacking his forces.
And I think NATO would respond accordingly, but would restrain from strategic total destruction.
For both sides, the tactical nukes would be the weapon of last resort. For sure, they would end the war.
Yes. And even Hitler, as crazy and desperate of a murderer he was, didn't resort to chemical/muster gas.
Yes. And even Hitler, as crazy and desperate of a murderer he was, didn't resort to chemical/muster gas.
True.
But Hitler was gassed when he was a foot soldier, and that's what made him reluctant to use mustard gas as a weapon once he was in charge. He didn't want his soldiers to suffer like he had suffered.
He had no reservations about killing the Jews with gas, though. Gassing them wasn't his plan, but he certainly learned it was to be used to achieve his objectives.
We all know why we are still buying Russian oil . We have socialists running Biden that's why. It's not because of global warming they stopped oil production here. why???.. they never rebuffed China for building coal plants. It's okay if communist Russia produces all the oil they want. They just don't want the United States to be strong.. the lefties in Washington want the strength to go to the communist countries and destroy the lifeline to our economy using global warming as an excuse. The Lefty's been saying it's so long that people are starting to believe it and it's actually laughable.
Russian oil and gas is only a short term problem, and can be replaced by US, Qatar and other such countries.
The UK only relies on around 4% of its gas coming from Russia and 6% of crude oil, and isn't effected, as is Norway.
This is due to the UK having North Sea Gas, a pipeline with Norway and LNG Ports that take gas from Qatar.
In terms of the longer term, gas boilers and appliances are no longer allowed in new build houses, whilst old gas boilers are to be replaced by Air Source Heat Pumps.
The UK has Liquefied natural gas (LNG) ports at Grain Island in the Thames Estuary, as well as in South Wales and Teesside, and there are LNG'S ports in Europe, with new LNG ports being constructed in Germany and other European ports.
In terms of energy policy, there has been a shift towards renewable energy such as Wind, Biomass, Solar, Geothermal and Hydropower coupled with nuclear power which will include new Small Modular Reactors.
As for Europe, some countries rely on Russian energy far more than others, the most reliant countries being Hungary and Germany, however Europe will be changing it's energy mix away from gas, in the same way that countries such as the UK are.
There is also the possibility of fracking in some parts of Europe, although this is a controversial issue, and the main reason for ridding ourselves of gas is that it's a dirty fossil fuel and bad for the climate, however the events in Ukraine have provided further reasons for ditching gas appliances and reliance on gas in the longer term.
As for being scared, I think you will find people in Russia are just as scared of nuclear war and global annihilation.
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If Putin fires a single shot across the Polish border, NATO will obliterate the entire Russian military. He won't stand a chance against NATO. He has trouble conquering Ukraine for crying out loud.
That is because the Ukrainian soul have tasted freedom and they do not want to be under communist rule ever ever again. They are fighting and will actually lay down their lives than to be under communist rule and no country will even help them and they know it. We will continue seeing the slaughter. The people of Ukraine are a testament of what the soul of a hungry freedom loving patriotic spirit will do. 79-year-old grandmothers are picking up a gun to fight against communist Putin.
We all know why we are still buying Russian oil . We have socialists running Biden that's why. It's not because of global warming they stopped oil production here. why???.. they never rebuffed China for building coal plants. It's okay if communist Russia produces all the oil they want. They just don't want the United States to be strong.. the lefties in Washington want the strength to go to the communist countries and destroy the lifeline to our economy using global warming as an excuse. The Lefty's been saying it's so long that people are starting to believe it and it's actually laughable.
Traders and refiners have yet to buy oil from Russia in 2022.
I see a real big problem coming. Putin senses that NATO the West is scared to death of him. Plus Putin is showing himself to be an over the top mad man.
You are a propaganda shill.
These posts are irresponsible and ridiculous. Just meant to get people scared and put pressure on politicians with unjustified fear.
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