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Old 03-04-2022, 05:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Phil75230 View Post
In a word, both the far right and White Nationalists are Reactionary (status quo ante). It varies from nation to nation, but generally it stands for
- returning to former traditional cultural values that even mainstream society has long rejected,
- if not group-national identity (not necessarily race-based, but often xenophobic), then it's national sovereignty even at the expense of global well-being
- traditional gender roles,
- returning to the "natural" ways of doing things (at the very least, a return to small town and rural values; at its worst it tends to think merciless dog-eat-dog competition gives the best results)
- if religion's involved, it involves return to "old time religion" and/or greater church involvement in government affairs (though certainly not all far rightist advocate this).

Seems like Putin supports all this too.

DAMN, I'd like to click on a link that backed you up, never mind.

 
Old 03-04-2022, 05:58 PM
 
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\Putin and Russia are the largest white nationalist nation in the world currently that's the republican connection, very, very obvious and simple
How? Damn it, if you could proved a link.


Here, let me show you.

You're a child rapist, prove me wrong.
 
Old 03-04-2022, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Russian planted post?
Putin is many things but Socialist is not one of them.
You are naive. Putin was brought up in a communist country and was a KGB Agent.. not a socialist. more like a Communist. He runs Russia like a good ole communist.
 
Old 03-04-2022, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Florida
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How? Damn it, if you could proved a link.


Here, let me show you.

You're a child rapist, prove me wrong.
The lefties are brainwashed.. no use .. they believe that Trump loves Putin. Now Trump said to Putin, I will level Moscow.... just like a good friend to Putin.. that is what the dems will believe no matter what.
 
Old 03-04-2022, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Russian planted post?
Putin is many things but Socialist is not one of them.
Nah, just the type of post that is presented by a white guy that is typical of the white guys that represent the Trump base.
 
Old 03-04-2022, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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Putin is the head of the largest "white" country, he is an authoritarian, when he rides horseback bare chested the republican right swoon...no other "deep" evaluation is really needed
If that's it takes to make the right swoon then you guys are not too bright. But then again it works. Bubba can't wait to eat poorly, down a six pack and go to a rally waving 5 flags from his pickup . The world is a lot more complex than mean tweets and hurled insults and slick NY talk.
 
Old 03-04-2022, 07:06 PM
 
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Well you have our president funding Putin's war campaign and just confirmed yet again, he has no plan to stop funding Putin. I changed my voter registration to Republican today. I can't wait to vote down the line.
 
Old 03-04-2022, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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Well you have our president funding Putin's war campaign and just confirmed yet again, he has no plan to stop funding Putin. I changed my voter registration to Republican today. I can't wait to vote down the line.
That sound great. Next election Putin can just donate to the GOP directly. Nobody cares.
 
Old 03-04-2022, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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It's because when you get down to it, they share a very similar ideology with Putin.

- Call to return to "traditional values" (especially returning to the Christian religion, anti-LGBTQ+, linking respect-worthiness with conformity to traditional gender roles and especially disrepect-worthiness with inability or refusal to conform to such roles)

- Infected with nostalgia and deluded as to how great that past society was.

- Obsessed with law, order, and discipline - on both national and personal levels. Ultimately one level supports the other. Which leads to the next point...

- Glorifies social dominance and the other so-called "manly" traits. Often implies that they're the only measure of personal worth; at least forcefulness of personality but extra points if physical forcefulness as well.

- Strong respect, if not admiration, of wealthy people (can compensate for low-average levels of social dominance to an extent).

There's no doubt other traits, but all this is what immediately crosses my mind.
What BS - talk about stereotyping and absolute hypocrisy - in many ways, the libs share his ideology in the ability to control the narrative and not listen to anyone with a different point of view.

Your idea of what constitutes traditional values and what conservatives believe is absolute hogwash - also ignores that Putin is about as anti christian as you can get. The delusion is your beliefs more than anything else.

The whole post is abusive by using targeting words like "inability", "refusal", "obsessed", "glorifies", "obsessed" - seems more like you want to bring others down than have a discussion.
 
Old 03-04-2022, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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In a word, both the far right and White Nationalists are Reactionary (status quo ante). It varies from nation to nation, but generally it stands for
- returning to former traditional cultural values that even mainstream society has long rejected,
- if not group-national identity (not necessarily race-based, but often xenophobic), then it's national sovereignty even at the expense of global well-being
- traditional gender roles,
- returning to the "natural" ways of doing things (at the very least, a return to small town and rural values; at its worst it tends to think merciless dog-eat-dog competition gives the best results)
- if religion's involved, it involves return to "old time religion" and/or greater church involvement in government affairs (though certainly not all far rightist advocate this).

Seems like Putin supports all this too.
Attempting to equate the right with white nationalist is really false - might as well equate the left with socialists or communists. Putin has many more ties with those left leaning groups being in charge of FSB that was responsible for enforcing those values than with White Nationalists (neo-nazis).

In case you don't know, Putin specifically gave defeating neo-nazis and banderites (Ukraine right wing nationalists) as some of his reasons to attack Ukraine. He is much more aligned with the left than the right.
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