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And... you're under the impression that this is not the case? America had been running at 2000+ Covid deaths per day all winter until recently.
That is a LOT different than Biden's very strong implication* that everyone who was not vaccinated would suffer severe illness and possibly death. QUOTE, my italics: "But it's here now and it's spreading and it's gonna increase. ... We are looking at a winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated -- for themselves, their families and the hospitals they'll soon overwhelm. But there's good news: If you're vaccinated and you have your booster shot, you're protected from severe illness and death," the President added. (end quote)
I can hardly wait until March 31 when I will ask how unvaccinated posters if they became severely ill this winter! I can almost promise you that there will be a chorus of No's.
*Actually, imo, it sounded more like he was promising that would happen.
I have official figures that show that vaxxed folks under 30 years of age are more likely to die from the vaxx.
That figure includes alpha and delta. It is also true that the number of people dying from the vaxx are very small.
Note that the under 9 death was not in ICU. The child did not die from covid. Our Ministry of Health has stated that all deaths WITH covid are recorded as covid deaths. A man killed in a motorcycle accident was recorded as a covid death (he died in ICU).
Note that this has not been updated for a while. At least 2 more under 30's have died since.
To keep things in perspective; this is for a total tally of 260,000 positive covid cases since the beginning of the pandemic, updated yesterday. Total covid deaths: 62.
Most of the people around me getting covid are vaxxed. A vaxxed teenage family member tested positive this morning.
One needs to makes one's own choice as to whether to take the shot or not. I took it and regretted doing so as I has an adverse reaction to it. Many others did not have an adverse reaction.
The person I know that had the worst case of covid is my beautiful 35-year-old daughter in law that is very healthy, no comorbidities, and was triple vaxed. I know plenty of people unvaxed with comorbidities and much older who had a very light case.
Almost everyone I know, including myself, have had covid and no one I personally know died from it or was hospitalized. My son was hospitalized and is going to be bankrupt after his employer forced him to get vaxxed and it gave him a heart attack at 30.
I also know several family and friends that quit their jobs rather than take the experimental jabs.
Given the above, I've got an immense level of ill will towards the lying vax nazis forcing people to take these experimental jabs. If you want it get it, why do you have to force everyone to get it when there's no debating the fact that doing so will not end covid, its future variants or necessarily prevent one from dying from it.
That is a LOT different than Biden's very strong implication* that everyone who was not vaccinated would suffer severe illness and possibly death. QUOTE, my italics: "But it's here now and it's spreading and it's gonna increase. ... We are looking at a winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated -- for themselves, their families and the hospitals they'll soon overwhelm. But there's good news: If you're vaccinated and you have your booster shot, you're protected from severe illness and death," the President added. (end quote)
I can hardly wait until March 31 when I will ask how unvaccinated posters if they became severely ill this winter! I can almost promise you that there will be a chorus of No's.
*Actually, imo, it sounded more like he was promising that would happen.
Even as feeble-minded as Biden has become, I'm sure he is well aware that omicron does not make more than a small percentage of people severely ill. And no, his statement does not, by any stretch, imply that every unvaccinated person would suffer such illness. He clearly meant that the unvaccinated, as a group, would take a lot of casualties this winter, and that has proven to be the case.
Even as feeble-minded as Biden has become, I'm sure he is well aware that omicron does not make more than a small percentage of people severely ill. And no, his statement does not, by any stretch, imply that every unvaccinated person would suffer such illness. He clearly meant that the unvaccinated, as a group, would take a lot of casualties this winter, and that has proven to be the case.
Like I said, those 2000 deaths a day are not from COVID but with COVID.
The vast majority of unvaccinated deaths are in terminally ill, >85 year olds. They weren't killed by COVID, they might have tested for it sometime during their terminal course of decline. And they're unvaccinated because in their condition, getting vaccinated could kill them and serves no purpose, as they will die regardless within a few months.
Other data suggests these vaccines have no effect, and maybe even negative efficacy and enhanced disease for Omicron.
Nothing wrong with that. I would have the same concerns and likely would have gone the same route, if I were pregnant.
COVID is not a political issue but a health one. That’s how I treated it and didn’t give a darn what politicians felt about it. I made my decision based on my own research.
Deaths (per year) for those above 85, 1 million.
For those 75-84, 800,000.
For those 65-74, 700,000.
This adds up to 2.5 million out of around 3 million deaths per year. The other 500,000 is everyone else.
This means, around 2,700 deaths per day for those above 85 (and this will be a lot higher in winter months), with an additional 2200 deaths per day for those 75-84.
Whose dying? Largely terminal ill people.
CDC definition of COVID death includes both people who died from and with COVID.
Who will not get vaccinated? Many like me, who read the clinical trials and understand they're a scam. But in the above age groups (75 and above) the lionshare will be too sick to get vaccinated due to terminal conditions.
They will test + for COVID, and regardless if they actually died from COVID, be counted even though this is the natural fate of their underlying disease.
COVID deaths are meaningless, even if deaths are appropriately counted. What we need is age-stratified death rates for all causes by vaccination status. All cause deaths, broken by age (and comorbidities and sex) and vaccination status.
People still trying to justify not getting vaccine. Look its capitalist society, take any claims by any drug manufacturer with grain of salt. Is it as effective as claimed, probably not. However it became obvious after short time that there were few serious side effects from vaccine for vast majority. Any vaccine will negatively affect a few. People were not dropping dead or being put in hospital BECAUSE OF THE VACCINE.
What the anti vax people dont seem to want to admit, covid itself CAN have far worse side effects (like death). So guess they think they can just tell the covid virus NO and somehow it will listen to them.
So lets see, whats the better bet to make, take the shot and risk minor side effects for short time or gamble you are one of the asymptomatic when you get covid. Even assuming the vaccine isnt as effective as claimed, still seems the smart money would be to get it. And yea shots are no fun and maybe uncomfortable for couple days after the shot. But minor thing. Can get bug bite or bee sting too. And be uncomfortable for couple days. Life means you are going to be uncomfortable sometimes.
Course hey you might be one of the rare few that have serious reaction and even die from vaccine. Unlikely but suppose it cant be denied as a possibility. But its like like betting against the house in a casino. Highly unlikely its going to be a wise long term strategy. You might have a run of luck, but luck always runs out.
People still trying to justify not getting vaccine. Look its capitalist society, take any claims by any drug manufacturer with grain of salt. Is it as effective as claimed, probably not. However it became obvious after short time that there were few serious side effects from vaccine for vast majority. Any vaccine will negatively affect a few. People were not dropping dead or being put in hospital BECAUSE OF THE VACCINE.
What the anti vax people dont seem to want to admit, covid itself CAN have far worse side effects (like death). So guess they think they can just tell the covid virus NO and somehow it will listen to them.
So lets see, whats the better bet to make, take the shot and risk minor side effects for short time or gamble you are one of the asymptomatic when you get covid. Even assuming the vaccine isnt as effective as claimed, still seems the smart money would be to get it. And yea shots are no fun and maybe uncomfortable for couple days after the shot. But minor thing. Can get bug bite or bee sting too. And be uncomfortable for couple days. Life means you are going to be uncomfortable sometimes.
Course hey you might be one of the rare few that have serious reaction and even die from vaccine. Unlikely but suppose it cant be denied as a possibility. But its like like betting against the house in a casino. Highly unlikely its going to be a wise long term strategy. You might have a run of luck, but luck always runs out.
In the Pfizer clinical trials, there was more serious adverse events and deaths (all causes) among the vaccinated vs unvaccinated. 20 deaths for the vaccinated group vs 14 for the unvaccinated group. And a 10% rate of higher adverse events requiring hospitalization and/or ER visits among the vaccinated.
We're seeing many AE post vaccination in a 2 weak window. But what about events in a 2 month window? Most are not being attributed to the vaccine, but very well could be due to it.
Either way, the double-blind RCT done by Pfizer is telling. The vaccines did not lead to any reduction in disease and death (all causes), in fact they showed a signal of increasing these outcomes.
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