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Old 03-30-2022, 06:34 PM
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Location: The New England part of Ohio
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So, Europe is facing another refugee crisis, this one looking to end up being far more massive than the last one. Millions upon millions of refugees will likely pour out of Ukraine into the EU in the coming months and years. How will they be treated by the people in the EU nations? Will they be welcomed with open arms, taken care of, etc? That's a possibility, but human nature tells me that probably won't be the case. The bulk, if not the vast majority, of refugees are desperate and highly vulnerable women and children. These are the type of people who are extremely easy to exploit, and they probably will be to a great extent. Another factor is the immense strain these refugees will place on the resources and finances of their host nations- I can see the people of these nations, upon the next economic crisis, blaming the refugees, using them as scapegoats. I wouldn't be surprised if we started seeing an epidemic of violence against them.

What do you think will be the fate of these refugees?
What is happening in Ukraine is a "crisis". Making room for people who have been displaced by a senseless war? That is common human dignity.

I have not heard one complaint from Poland, or from any Polish nationals about "illegals". They call them "refugees" - people who are seeking refuge.

Other Eastern European countries with fewer resources than Poland, are also doing their best to accommodate the refugees from war torn Ukraine. Romania and Moldova come to mind. I know that the UK is also planning to accommodate these people.

It is the civilized and humane thing to do. Are they legal immigrants? In the case of Poland, they are making them legal, by issuing them identity cards so that they can obtain healthcare, housing and assistance with employment.

They are being greeted with compassion and care - not men on horses with whips.
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Old 03-30-2022, 06:37 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Probably because Ukraine has banned men of fighting age from leaving the country.
Pretty sure he's talking about from Mexico, Guatemala, etc on the southern border.
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Old 03-30-2022, 06:39 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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What is happening in Ukraine is a "crisis". Making room for people who have been displaced by a senseless war? That is common human dignity.

I have not heard one complaint from Poland, or from any Polish nationals about "illegals". They call them "refugees" - people who are seeking refuge.

Other Eastern European countries with fewer resources than Poland, are also doing their best to accommodate the refugees from war torn Ukraine. Romania and Moldova come to mind. I know that the UK is also planning to accommodate these people.

It is the civilized and humane thing to do. Are they legal immigrants? In the case of Poland, they are making them legal, by issuing them identity cards so that they can obtain healthcare, housing and assistance with employment.

They are being greeted with compassion and care - not men on horses with whips.
The protocol for "refugees" is seeking shelter in the first Country you can reach. Not passing through two or three of them in hopes of gaming the free public services from the sucker tax payers.
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Old 03-31-2022, 07:42 AM
 
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What is happening in Ukraine is a "crisis". Making room for people who have been displaced by a senseless war? That is common human dignity.

I have not heard one complaint from Poland, or from any Polish nationals about "illegals". They call them "refugees" - people who are seeking refuge.

Other Eastern European countries with fewer resources than Poland, are also doing their best to accommodate the refugees from war torn Ukraine. Romania and Moldova come to mind. I know that the UK is also planning to accommodate these people.

It is the civilized and humane thing to do. Are they legal immigrants? In the case of Poland, they are making them legal, by issuing them identity cards so that they can obtain healthcare, housing and assistance with employment.

They are being greeted with compassion and care - not men on horses with whips.
We are a compassionate country. We take in over 1 million legal immigrants a year and numerous asylum seekers and refugees to state otherwise is disingenuous on your part! We have to have reasonable limits though so it doesn't negatively impact our own citizens. Makes no sense to me for refugees to go half way around the world to apply for it when there are neighboring countries that should be taking them in. We already have taken in millions of Latinos from south of our border.

As for the the LE officials using whips they were used on the horses not people's bodies! It was also an attempt to stop them from getting further into our country without protocol being followed so I suggest you stop the BS!
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Old 03-31-2022, 07:54 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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The West likely destabilized Ukraine on purpose to create a refugee crisis that helps their labor shortages. You should have Ukrainian bankers picking up trash in London shortly.
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Old 03-31-2022, 08:34 AM
 
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We are a compassionate country. We take in over 1 million legal immigrants a year and numerous asylum seekers and refugees to state otherwise is disingenuous on your part! We have to have reasonable limits though so it doesn't negatively impact our own citizens. Makes no sense to me for refugees to go half way around the world to apply for it when there are neighboring countries that should be taking them in. We already have taken in millions of Latinos from south of our border.

As for the the LE officials using whips they were used on the horses not people's bodies! It was also an attempt to stop them from getting further into our country without protocol being followed so I suggest you stop the BS!
The refugees only have to go about a quarter way around the world to get here.

The countries around Ukraine are small, and they can only take in so many, so while close distance makes immediate sense, there will be some looking to come to large countries like the US because there is already an established Ukrainian community here, as well as Canada, which has an even larger percentage of people of Ukrainian descent going back more than one hundred years (I'm guessing people from cold countries like to move to other cold countries).
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Old 03-31-2022, 08:39 AM
 
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The refugees only have to go about a quarter way around the world to get here.

The countries around Ukraine are small, and they can only take in so many, so while close distance makes immediate sense, there will be some looking to come to large countries like the US because there is already an established Ukrainian community here, as well as Canada, which has an even larger percentage of people of Ukrainian descent going back more than one hundred years (I'm guessing people from cold countries like to move to other cold countries).
I still stand by what I said. We have to put limits on the number of refugees and asylum claimants into our country. We are trillions in debt with our own poor and suffering to take care of. It really doesn't matter whether or not there are large number of their own kind here or anywhere else either. Each country has to protect and care for their own citizens first.
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Old 03-31-2022, 08:43 AM
 
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Another good questions would be how will this horde of refugees treat their host countries?
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Old 04-02-2022, 11:40 PM
 
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The West likely destabilized Ukraine on purpose to create a refugee crisis that helps their labor shortages. You should have Ukrainian bankers picking up trash in London shortly.
You must think Western Countries are very smart to be able to orchestrate that.

But don’t forget Russia, the west is getting plenty of young refugees fleeing that country as well.

Now if we could just send our domestic Putin worshipers over there in exchange, we’d really have everything solved.
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Old 04-05-2022, 04:13 PM
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Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Millions of Ukrainians dreamed about moving to the West, earning 100,000 € while working at BMW and Mercedes factories, buying two-story houses and luxury cars.

Those dreams come true now.
That is really an unfair and untrue statement. I know so many Ukrainians who have good jobs, own their homes, hold advanced degrees and are multi-lingual. They have always loved Ukraine and while they enjoy travel, they did not want to be forced out of their country.

Your post is not at all funny.
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