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Well, now we've had a federal judge who said that Trump probably committed criminal acts as to January 6 and another calling him a charlatan for his actions on Jan. 6. That doesn't mean he had 'nothing to do with it' except in al alternate universe.
Really reaching now with “probably” and name calling. Do you have proof that because Trump had anything to do with 1/6?
I think there are actually 2 plausible answers to the question:
A: Trump was involved from start to finish
B: Trump was a useful idiot that was led by the nose to get people there that day.
Given Miike Lee's text messages released today, it's clear that many people in Washington were working on a plot and nearly pulled it off until State electors, Pence, and others involved got cold feet while watching the January 6th invasion of the Capitol.
Do you have proof to your thinking of 2 plausible answers that’ll hold up in court to “get him”?
Although it was a jury trial, the judge was singularly unimpressed with the alibi that the dude was just following orders from Trump. He ordered the man to jail before sentencing and called the attempted defense "disingenuous".
The poor man! He was laid off in the pandemic before he decided to storm the Capitol. When he texted his wife a video of him in the Capitol, she texted back: "I will not post bail."
The judge didn't let Trump off the hook, either. He stated:
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“I think our democracy is in trouble,” he said, “because unfortunately we have charlatans like our former president who, in my view, doesn’t care about democracy but only about power.”
So what we have is a jury not agreeing with all of the Democrats who have told us for the last year+ that Trump was the one pulling the strings and people were just doing what he said. I can see why this is distressing to some, it would have been much better for the TDS narrative if the jury found him not guilty.
Ouch...That statement was more like Whoops. Trump wasn't on trial. His opinion of Trump should have zero play in this because judges are supposed to be impartial. I think that comment just gave that defendant a great chance at an appeal. If the judge had said something like "Biden was a sham President because he stole the election" you would have every MSM and Democratic mouthpiece asking for that judge to step down.
Considering because Trump had nothing to do with it, that is a terrible excuse.
We have all heard the tapes from the rally and if some fools misunderstood Trump's call to "peacefully march to the Capital and have your voices heard" that is on them. It has nothing to do with Trump.
What is so wrong and what seems to be being covered up is if there were any paid agitators or plants in that crowd that egged them on to become a mob? Why don't we ever hear about that possibility? The FBI won't tell us if they had people in the crowd but would we really be surprised with their entrapment policies?
The January 6th INSURRECTION !! was probably actually planned by the Democrats so they could acquire political capital. When the crowd stalled outside they had to be egged on to swarm with some having doors opened for them while being invited in. How is that an insurrection plus has there ever been a planned insurrection that did not involve weapons? We are talking Trump people here and the Left would have us believe that they are armed to the teeth with assault weapons yet they decide to take over the country by swinging a few flag poles.
It is all really weak but the Dems have played it up to be the worse thing ever!
So what we have is a jury not agreeing with all of the Democrats who have told us for the last year+ ...
I think the jury did not agree with the Republican defendant that he was not guilty because whatever he did was at the behest of Trump.
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I can see why this is distressing to some, it would have been much better for the TDS narrative if the jury found him not guilty.
"TDS" is a term used by those who explain away all Trump failings.
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Trump wasn't on trial. His opinion of Trump should have zero play in this because judges are supposed to be impartial.
Well, the trial certainly put on the record many things done by Trump. Trump did not come off very well. Trump was not on trial so impartiality really does not involve him.
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I think that comment just gave that defendant a great chance at an appeal.
In a jury trial? You wrong. It was the defendant saying that Trump had done wrong. If he claims the judge was prejudiced against Trump, so what?
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If the judge had said something like "Biden was a sham President because he stole the election" you would have every MSM and Democratic mouthpiece asking for that judge to step down.
The judge was commenting on evidence educed at trial. He gets to do that.
Your other speculation has no basis. At what trial has that evidence been shown? In all cases the opposite has come out.
The January 6th INSURRECTION !! was probably actually planned by the Democrats so they could acquire political capital.
Your theory is worse than that of the WY GOP.
We've just had one of the leaders of the Proud Boys confess to the exact opposite. But you go ahead and presume the insurrection was the work of anti-Trump activists.
We have all heard the tapes from the rally and if some fools misunderstood Trump's call to "peacefully march to the Capital and have your voices heard" that is on them. It has nothing to do with Trump.
What is so wrong and what seems to be being covered up is if there were any paid agitators or plants in that crowd that egged them on to become a mob? Why don't we ever hear about that possibility? The FBI won't tell us if they had people in the crowd but would we really be surprised with their entrapment policies?
The January 6th INSURRECTION !! was probably actually planned by the Democrats so they could acquire political capital. When the crowd stalled outside they had to be egged on to swarm with some having doors opened for them while being invited in. How is that an insurrection plus has there ever been a planned insurrection that did not involve weapons? We are talking Trump people here and the Left would have us believe that they are armed to the teeth with assault weapons yet they decide to take over the country by swinging a few flag poles.
It is all really weak but the Dems have played it up to be the worse thing ever!
Bingo…and their because Trump angst still has them blaming him for their problems and are so desperate to “get him” they’ll do anything and everything they can with zero proof.
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We have all heard the tapes from the rally and if some fools misunderstood Trump's call to "peacefully march to the Capital and have your voices heard" that is on them. It has nothing to do with Trump.
What is so wrong and what seems to be being covered up is if there were any paid agitators or plants in that crowd that egged them on to become a mob? Why don't we ever hear about that possibility? The FBI won't tell us if they had people in the crowd but would we really be surprised with their entrapment policies?
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The January 6th INSURRECTION !! was probably actually planned by the Democrats so they could acquire political capital. When the crowd stalled outside they had to be egged on to swarm with some having doors opened for them while being invited in. How is that an insurrection plus has there ever been a planned insurrection that did not involve weapons? We are talking Trump people here and the Left would have us believe that they are armed to the teeth with assault weapons yet they decide to take over the country by swinging a few flag poles.
It is all really weak but the Dems have played it up to be the worse thing ever!
Yep. That would explain many things that had happened prior to that day, during that day and after.
Yep. That would explain many things that had happened prior to that day, during that day and after.
You just haven't been keeping up.
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In addition to the plea by Proud Boys member Charles Donohoe and an earlier plea by another defendant, an Alabama member of the Oath Keepers pleaded guilty last month to seditious conspiracy, admitting to taking part in a plan developed by group founder Stewart Rhodes to oppose by force the inauguration of President Biden, including taking part in the Capitol breach.
That was a week ago. Only the tinfoil hat crowd now believe it was agents provocateurs who fomented rioting on Jan. 6.
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