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Old 04-15-2022, 12:50 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Toxic Waltz View Post
Great news for Trump...even the kangaroo court is admitting he had nothing to do with it.
Once again, not quite what was determined in court. The jurors basically said that rioters could not use Trump as an excuse.

Got that?

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One juror told CNN after the verdict that jurors only considered whether Thompson was a "willing participant."... The juror added that they "were just judging the case on its merits. I don't think anyone thought about Donald Trump, even though clearly a lot of people have feelings."
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/14/polit...ump/index.html

 
Old 04-15-2022, 12:54 PM
 
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Do you have proof to your thinking of 2 plausible answers that’ll hold up in court to “get him”?
#1: Absolutely not, I don't claim to have proof to implicate nor exonerate him. That is where we all stand, we may have an opinion or a talking head's opinion but none of us know all the information from that day yet.

#2: The useful idiot part would be Trump's Defense, not for prosecution, Congress, or other bodies to prove. Trump's Defense would make the case that Trump was just an innocent bystander who was used for his influence by bad actors if they deemed it nessessary, again a Defense Argument.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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#1: Absolutely not, I don't claim to have proof to implicate nor exonerate him. That is where we all stand, we may have an opinion or a talking head's opinion but none of us know all the information from that day yet.

#2: The useful idiot part would be Trump's Defense, not for prosecution, Congress, or other bodies to prove. The Defense would make a case that Trump was just an innocent bystander who was used for his influence by bad actors, again a Defense Argument.
No defense needed. Innocent until proven guilty, and there’s no proof after 15+ months…just feelings, assumptions, etc…
 
Old 04-15-2022, 12:59 PM
 
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No defense needed. Innocent until proven guilty, and there’s no proof after 15+ months…just feelings, assumptions, etc…
Your statement is an assumption. Is 15 months the arbitrary cutoff for all investigations? Is it 16 months? What is the cutoff? And if 15 months is a cut off then is it the cut-off for all investigations into politicians?
 
Old 04-15-2022, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Your statement is an assumption. Is 15 months the arbitrary cutoff for all investigations? Is it 16 months? What is the cutoff? And if 15 months is a cut off then is it the cut-off for all investigations into politicians?
Your thinking is an assumption. Nope, a 15+ month investigation of turning up zilch is just the current timeframe. Dems will continue to investigate and continue to come up with nothing just like the last 5+ years.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 01:03 PM
 
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I think the jury did not agree with the Republican defendant that he was not guilty because whatever he did was at the behest of Trump.
So the jury went against the Democrats who have been stating such for the last year+.

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"TDS" is a term used by those who explain away all Trump failings
See above.

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Well, the trial certainly put on the record many things done by Trump. Trump did not come off very well. Trump was not on trial so impartiality really does not involve him.
It isn't hard to come off looking bad if you have someone talking bad about you and not being challenged.

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In a jury trial? You wrong. It was the defendant saying that Trump had done wrong. If he claims the judge was prejudiced against Trump, so what?
Appeals are made when the verdict doesn't go the defendant's way but rarely are made on grounds of the actual verdict especially if it is a jury trial. They are made on actions the judge did(or did not) make during the trial. If he showed the same bias and prejudice during the trial that is 100% something the defense would use as a basis for appeal.

And yes I did say "IF" as I have not read the entire transcript of the trial(and doubt you have either), and have no plans to. But if there is something there you can be sure that the defense attorneys will bring it out.

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The judge was commenting on evidence educed at trial. He gets to do that.
Yes, but did his bias influence what evidence was allowed/not allowed...He doesn't get to that.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 01:04 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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You just haven't been keeping up.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md...oud-boys-jan6/

That was a week ago. Only the tinfoil hat crowd now believe it was agents provocateurs who fomented rioting on Jan. 6.
Lol, you wish. But unlike you, I'm not ignoring the glaring evidence that things are not as the dem's want everyone to believe.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Lol, you wish. But unlike you, I'm not ignoring the glaring evidence that things are not as the dem's want everyone to believe.
Bingo…their angst clouds reality.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 01:08 PM
 
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Bingo…their angst clouds reality.
Exactly. At first their angst was somewhat humorous but now it's almost pathetic.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 01:11 PM
 
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Your thinking is an assumption. Nope, a 15+ month investigation of turning up zilch is just the current timeframe. Dems will continue to investigate and continue to come up with nothing just like the last 5+ years.
They may, they may not. Like most Congressional investigations it will be a long process but the findings will be published so we will all find out together. I see no problem with the current ongoing process given this is how all congressional investigations do.

In fact, I cannot think of one congressional investigation that was short. Iran Contra was long, Clinton was long, Bengazi was long, Trump was long, am I missing a short one?
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