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Can anyone dispute the main point of this thread which is that:
Although blacks make up 13-16% of the population (depending on source of stats)...
Black women account for the most abortions (35-40% of all abortions, again, depends on source of stats), more than whites and more than any other minority.
Where are the majority of PPs located? Anyone? Anyone?
&, of course, Sanger was opposed to abortion except to save the life of the woman. She was always opposed, PP had to wait until she was off the board to move towards abortion as birth control. Sanger always preferred that the woman carry to term, & put the baby up for adoption, if it came to that.
So this entire line of argument massively misses the mark. Always has, always will.
I am surprised many times when I talk to people about this group and their lack of knowledge around its founder and purpose. Finding information on Saner is a bit difficult since they have tried to wipe their history off the map..
Planned Parenthood? According to Roe v. Wade (still the definitive US Supreme Court holding on abortion in the US, as far as I know) - abortion under Roe is not murder. That may change - but we'll have to wait & see.
It is funny to use the government as your way of deciding on whether or not something is murder while simultaneously acknowledging that the definition provided by government can change at any time. So we are supposed to accept that what is murder today may not be tomorrow and vice versa and we are supposed to pretend that makes any sense.
Murder is murder no matter what the government says.
It is funny to use the government as your way of deciding on whether or not something is murder while simultaneously acknowledging that the definition provided by government can change at any time. So we are supposed to accept that what is murder today may not be tomorrow and vice versa and we are supposed to pretend that makes any sense.
Murder is murder no matter what the government says.
The US Supreme Court held in Roe that abortion performed under the provisions of Roe was not murder. TMK, that's the latest word on the legal status of abortion in the US. If it changes, I'm sure we'll hear about it.
The US Supreme Court held in Roe that abortion performed under the provisions of Roe was not murder. TMK, that's the latest word on the legal status of abortion in the US. If it changes, I'm sure we'll hear about it.
So what? The Supreme Courts decisions are not unanimous and they can be changed in the future. The definition of murder doesnt change depending on which president happens to appoint a judge. The only thing that changes is whether or not the government will recognize murder or not.
Every single person invovled in this discussion knows with 100% certainty that a person saying it is "murder" is referring to it as an ethics term (that should be recognized by law) so I dont know why people feel the need to say this. It isnt like anybody is being confused by how the term is being used and further clarification is needed. I guess some people feel the need to say this because they know "murder" is an ugly term so they deflect to this silly "achtuaallly its not unlawful so its not murder."
The US Supreme Court is the highest court in the Judiciary in the US. If the Supreme Court holds that abortion under Roe is not murder, then that holds throughout the US & its related jurisdictions.
Not for nothing, but,..that's 50% less unwanted young children out there growing up in an unwanted environment with parent(s) who probably couldn't afford them both time and money-wise, where chances are, they'll end up into crime and the prison system.
Not saying yay or nay, ..just say'in. There's no easy way out.
If we got rid of all unwanted children growing up in an unwanted environment we wouldn't stop at abortions. There are millions of unwanted children walking around supported by parents who cannot afford them.
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