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Old 05-08-2022, 09:25 AM
 
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Oh look now they’re coming out of the woodwork to ban contraceptives.

 
Old 05-08-2022, 09:34 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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They maybe behaving irresponsibly, but doesn't mean they chose to get pregnant. Some people drive 100mph unbuckled on the freeways, doesn't mean they want to die.
It doesn't mean they don't want to, either. That's the point. Voluntarily participating in something that has a known outcome is agreeing to accept that possible outcome.
 
Old 05-08-2022, 09:35 AM
 
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They maybe behaving irresponsibly, but doesn't mean they chose to get pregnant. Some people drive 100mph unbuckled on the freeways, doesn't mean they want to die.

Now, pregnancy is a very vulnerable and emotional time for a woman. I've known woman dead set against abortions, get one, after becoming pregnant. People change their minds.
If people eat 5 Big Macs a day are the choosing to get fat?

Do they not know that overeating causes obesity?
 
Old 05-08-2022, 09:37 AM
 
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If you live in South Texas and have to drive 500 miles or more one way, it's a big deal. Especially if you are poor.
But somehow they seem to be able to make it to Florida for a vacation.

Not buying this argument anymore. Not to mention the many pro choice groups which will likely fund this stuff.
 
Old 05-08-2022, 09:40 AM
 
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It doesn't mean they don't want to, either. That's the point. Voluntarily participating in something that has a known outcome is agreeing to accept that possible outcome.
funny how you keep ignoring the male role in pregnancy! and the responsibility.
 
Old 05-08-2022, 09:43 AM
 
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I don't know, I suspect most don't want to be fat (who does?) but they live in the moment, and like the taste and convenience of a big mac.

Kind of like young people and sex. They don't want to get pregnant, but they live in the moment.
And they need to live with the consequences.
 
Old 05-08-2022, 09:46 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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funny how you keep ignoring the male role in pregnancy! and the responsibility.
Who said anything about men not being equally responsible? That's what court-ordered child support is for. Thousands of family courts record exactly such orders every work day.
 
Old 05-08-2022, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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But somehow they seem to be able to make it to Florida for a vacation.

Not buying this argument anymore. Not to mention the many pro choice groups which will likely fund this stuff.
Oh come on. The person who needs/wants an abortion is not necessarily the same person who vacations in FL. You could say it the other way around though. A person who is used to long road trips or flights will have an easier time going to a different state for an abortion than a poor person who drives junker car. .
 
Old 05-08-2022, 09:49 AM
 
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Oh come on. The person who needs/wants an abortion is not necessarily the same person who vacations in FL. You could say it the other way around though. A person who is used to long road trips or flights will have an easier time going to a different state for an abortion than a poor person who drives junker car. .
They key here is "easier time" -- an abortion shouldn't be easy.

Too bad so sad if it will not be easy.

But it is laughable in this day and age to say that transport to another state is that horrible.
 
Old 05-08-2022, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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But somehow they seem to be able to make it to Florida for a vacation.

Not buying this argument anymore. Not to mention the many pro choice groups which will likely fund this stuff.
According to Texas, any person/organization who assists a woman to get an abortion can be sued for $10,000 by any Texas resident. They will be watching any abortion assistance groups like a hawk to try to catch somebody in the act of assisting.
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