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Old 05-10-2022, 07:30 AM
Status: "I don't understand. But I don't care, so it works out." (set 17 days ago)
 
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Originally Posted by Kracer View Post
Whose been doing all the banning?

books, symbols, words, discussion ...if you said the communists, AQ, China, etc, ..... you'd be half right if you forgot to include the demosocialists and media running the hijacked dem party.

Slippery slope only occurs on the right supported issues and never on the left........ so claim the left.
Up until the last couple years, book banning was exclusively the behavior of the right.

How very short our memories are.

 
Old 05-10-2022, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon View Post
For those who don't want to read the article:

Mississippi Governor said life begins at conception.

Media points out that some forms of contraception (IUD and morning after) happen AFTER contraception and if he would then ban those.

Mississippi governor responded that is not his current focus at the moment.

Media then responds that he won't rule out banning contraception.

Leftist poster then says Mississippi governor might next consider disenfranchising women.



Technically speaking, isn't the media misusing the actual definition here?

"the deliberate use of artificial methods or other techniques to prevent pregnancy as a consequence of sexual intercourse. The major forms of artificial contraception are barrier methods, of which the most common is the condom; the contraceptive pill, which contains synthetic sex hormones that prevent ovulation in the female; intrauterine devices, such as the coil, which prevent the fertilized ovum from implanting in the uterus; and male or female sterilization."

Contraception prevents pregnancy, so the morning after pill is not contraceptive. It terminates the pregnancy, just very early.
problem is, you gotta boil it down to the same # of words they use that apparently matches their attention span. And use declarative statements ("they will/they are") for possible conclusions reached after jumping through hoops ("they could").
 
Old 05-10-2022, 07:36 AM
 
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So you agree with banning contraception?
has MS got any bill or law that outlaws ALL contraception, which is what you're claiming?

has MS got any current Legislator, heck even candidate for this year, that says "Once Roe is gone, we're banning all contraception methods"?
 
Old 05-10-2022, 07:38 AM
 
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But still you can't argue against the FACT that most people who want abortion banned also want any form of birth control medication banned that is capable of interfering with the fertilized egg.
I wouldn't argue against the idea that the vast majority of the 10% who want no abortion, no conditions would also align with "no contraceptives that interfere with a fertilized egg".

However, all caps or not, you haven't presented any "facts".
 
Old 05-10-2022, 07:41 AM
 
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This would cost the GOP dearly. They were on track for a red wave in November. But if they keep this crap up, we're back to fighting every step of the way.
you're believing what the kell490's and MSM are telling you, not what is actually being said/done.

See, the MS governor didn't actually say "I won't rule that out".

Let's say MS were to enact a ban on "contraceptives that interfere with the fertilized egg". What does that have to do with Congressional races in other states - especially if the candidates were to say "I think that goes too far"?
 
Old 05-10-2022, 07:44 AM
 
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Says who??? A few religious whakos that are quoted and taken out of context as being the majority of the Republican voter base by liberal media that stoke the flames of fear on what may happen?? Are you lefties really that gullible?I have never seen a party get so riled and scared over outlandish claims that haven’t been “confirmed” as fact except by prime time talking heads on MSNBC or CNN.
there are sadly far more gullible people than rational thinkers on both sides.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 07:46 AM
 
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One prolific (posting wise) male Trump supporting CD poster who lives in Texas (who I haven't seen post lately), who is married and has grown children, has posted that he thinks that people should only have sex to procreate.
okay, we're at 1/76,000,000 Republican voters. Keep 'em coming folks!
 
Old 05-10-2022, 07:49 AM
 
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I can understand where he's coming from and have my own moral reservations. Isn't that what condoms are for? They're not guaranteed to work 100% of the time. I don't know the full details of how birth control pills work though I understand part of their functionality has to do with the prevention of the release of the egg and inhibiting the reaching of the sperm cell to the egg. In that respect the fertilisation necessary to begin creating the form of a new child hasn't even occurred yet.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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Currently, when Roe is overturned, his state has a trigger law that will ban abortions after 15 weeks, which I think most can be fairly comfortable with.

Why not just leave it at that? No, law in this state won't ban contraception, because that has nothing to do with the 15 week gestational mark - women can feel confident that after Roe is overturned, they can still legally get Plan B, continue to take their Rx birth control, and still have their IUD implanted.

Why not say it that way? We've all heard the Supremes lie through their teeth about what they were planning quick as the appropriate case came before them, the public is a leery about what these men intend to do.
because anything the MSM does that positions it that way doesn't rile up your "base".
 
Old 05-10-2022, 07:53 AM
 
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All hysteria aside, there are state laws in the books in several states that define personhood at conception this would affect plan b and IUD's
as written, you're absolutely correct. But you can't get a "Jake Tapper" to ask:

"As currently written, MS law outlaws anything that interferes with the fertilized egg as an "abortion". Do you believe that IUD's should fall under that? Do you think Plan B should?"
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