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With the White House under fire for its new rule requiring employers including religious organizations to offer health insurance that fully covers birth control coverage, ABC News has learned that later today the White House — possibly President Obama himself — will likely announce an attempt to accommodate these religious groups.
The move, based on state models, will almost certainly not satisfy bishops and other religious leaders...
If is definitely not over. The issue is that Barack studied the issue and listened to both sides and then CHOSE to violate the Constitution. He don't get a mulligan.
I don't think he was wrong. If I work for a group ... I have to believe everything they do? ... I don't think so. Why should I not have a benefit, just because you have some A$$ backwards way of thinking that dates back to the Dark Ages?
The right-wing noise machine was too much, even though:
28 states, including those liberal bastions, North Carolina and Georgia, mandate religious organizations to cover contraceptives in their health care plans. 8 of those states have no religious exemption. Hawaii's contraception coverage has been on the books since 1999. Where was the conservative outrage when these states passed these laws? Anyone who thinks that this isn't merely an anti-Obama false outrage, needs to wake up.
I don't think he was wrong. If I work for a group ... I have to believe everything they do? ... I don't think so. Why should I not have a benefit, just because you have some A$$ backwards way of thinking that dates back to the Dark Ages?
Then find another job if your company doesn't provide the right 'benefit' for you.
The right-wing noise machine was too much, even though:
28 states, including those liberal bastions, North Carolina and Georgia, mandate religious organizations to cover contraceptives in their health care plans. 17 of those states have no religious exemption. Hawaii's contraception coverage has been on the books since 1999. Where was the conservative outrage when these states passed these laws? Anyone who thinks that this isn't merely an anti-Obama false outrage, needs to wake up.
Point of correction: Looking at your map, North Carolina has a religious exemption. Also, 17 states DO have a religious exemption. Typo?
Can you prove that there was no "conservative outrage" when these laws were passed? No, you can't. So why do you utter words like this?
Not just that but....
Six Things Everyone Should Know About the HHS Mandate | Georgia Catholic Conference (http://www.georgiacc.org/c/179 - broken link)
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6. The federal mandate is much stricter than existing state mandates. HHS chose the narrowest state-level religious exemption as the model for its own. That exemption was drafted by the ACLU and exists in only 3 states (New York, California, Oregon). Even without a religious exemption, religious employers can already avoid the contraceptive mandates in 28 states by self-insuring their prescription drug coverage, dropping that coverage altogether, or opting for regulation under a federal law (ERISA) that pre-empts state law. The HHS mandate closes off all these avenues of relief.
I don't think he was wrong. If I work for a group ... I have to believe everything they do? ... I don't think so. Why should I not have a benefit, just because you have some A$$ backwards way of thinking that dates back to the Dark Ages?
Go find somewhere else to work. As you say this isn't the Dark Ages it's not like anyone has to work Church lands for their survival anymore.
Then find another job if your company doesn't provide the right 'benefit' for you.
That's the argument that discriminators and those that oppose sensible regulation always use as a defense.
"You're a woman and your company pays women less then men? Find another job."
"If you don't like being sexually harassed, find another job."
Air filters? "If you don't like breathing coal dust, find another job."
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Originally Posted by EdwardA
Go find somewhere else to work. As you say this isn't the Dark Ages it's not like anyone has to work Church lands for their survival anymore.
We're talking about employees in schools, hospitals and universities -- not the church.
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