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Old 05-20-2022, 06:21 PM
 
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This soft coup, which was a blatant attack on democracy, hindered the an elected president.

The media aided and abetted this assault on democracy.
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Old 05-20-2022, 07:42 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Hillary to team: "Go spread that dirt to the media."

Former Hillary Campaign Manager: "She signed off on sketchy Trump-Russia Dirt"

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"Someone should check on former Clinton Campaign Manager Robby Mook."

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More explosive developments in Sussmann Trial...

"Former Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook testified Friday that then-Democrat(sic) presidential nominee Hillary Clinton approved the dissemination of materials..."

So, to spell it out for you... Crooked-Hillary-Herself-Approved-The-Smear-Campaign, but then denied any involvement of Sussman's involvement in the F.B.I.

Elon Musk: Bet most people still don't know that a Clinton Campaign lawyer, using campaign funds, created an elaborate hoax about Trump and Russia. Makes you wonder what else is fake.

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Hillary Clinton personally signed off on all of this. Can you dig that?

Is that easy peazy enough yet? Oh, but wait there's more!

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There was a phone call, Crooked Hillary paid Fusion GPS through her campaign, through her lawyers, was told they had some papers, no way to verify with DNS expertise, but we just take it to the media and do their own vetting.

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This was the exact same time Crooked Hillary Clinton was deleting her emails and having "troubles" with her server... then October 31st, she retweets Jake Sullivan, OMG, cybersecurity, crimes, Trump has a server with Alpha Bank.

Big fat lie.

Prove that there, Clinton supporters. That means you James Comey... on July 5th... "She did all these horrible things, so let's let her off the hook."

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Sussman to Baker, "I am not representing any client." "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."

Mook: "She Greenlighted! She Greenlighted!"

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Now back to brass tax... Hillary Clinton Approved Dissemination Of Alfa Bank Hoax To Media, Campaign Manager Testifies

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Old 05-20-2022, 09:43 PM
 
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A: Our future.
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Old 05-22-2022, 08:42 AM
 
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Maybe you should answer your own question. because the article you cite doesn't really give any specifics on how our country was damaged. It does say

"To the extent that it soiled our politics, damaged U.S. standing and foreign relations, or influenced the calculations and miscalculations of Vladimir Putin...."

So maybe it hurt our relations with Russia, but i don't think many of us are crying over that right about now. And the author even characterizes Trump as "An unseasoned (and blowhardy) politician...." and acknowledges his many mistakes.

Bottom line - Russia interfered in our election, Steele spread rumors that Trump colluded in it, Mueller investigated and didn't find proof of that, Trump was cleared. The end. If Hillary did something illegal, I hope she goes to jail.
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Old 05-25-2022, 07:36 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Sussmann billed Clinton campaign for thumb drives he gave to FBI pushing Alfa-Bank allegations

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Maybe you should answer your own question. because the article you cite doesn't really give any specifics on how our country was damaged. It does say

"To the extent that it soiled our politics, damaged U.S. standing and foreign relations, or influenced the calculations and miscalculations of Vladimir Putin...."

So maybe it hurt our relations with Russia, but i don't think many of us are crying over that right about now. And the author even characterizes Trump as "An unseasoned (and blowhardy) politician...." and acknowledges his many mistakes.

Bottom line - Russia interfered in our election, Steele spread rumors that Trump colluded in it, Mueller investigated and didn't find proof of that, Trump was cleared. The end. If Hillary did something illegal, I hope she goes to jail.
It's not 'my' question - it's the title of the article.
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Old 05-26-2022, 08:36 AM
 
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Bottom line - Russia interfered in our election, Steele spread rumors that Trump colluded in it, Mueller investigated and didn't find proof of that, Trump was cleared. The end. If Hillary did something illegal, I hope she goes to jail.
Trump himself may have been cleared, however the Mueller report did find collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

"Separately, on August 2, 2016, Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort met in New York
City with his long-time business associate Konstantin Kilimnik,who the FBI assesses to have ties
to Russian intelligence.Kilimnik requested themeeting todeliver in person a peace plan for
Ukraine that Manafort acknowledged to the Special Counsel’s Office was a “backdoor†way for
Russia to control part ofeastern Ukraine; both men believed the plan would require candidate
Trump’s assent to succeed (were he to be elected President). They also discussed the status of the
Trump Campaign and Manafort’s strategy for winning Democratic votes in Midwestern states.
Months before that meeting, Manafort had caused internal polling data to beshared with Kilimnik,
and the sharing continued for some period of time after their August meeting."

And from the BiPartisan Senate Investigation into Russian Interference, Vol5

"Prior to joining the Trump Campaign in March 2016 and continuing throughout his
time 6n the Campaign, Manafort directly and indirectly communicated with Kilimnik, Deripaska,
and the pro-Russian oligarchs in Ukraine. On numerous occasions, Manafort sought to secretly
share internal Campaign information with Kilimnik
. The Committee was unable to reliably
determine why Manafort shared sensitive internal polling data or Campaign strategy with
Kilimnik or with whom Kilimnik further shared that information. The Committee had limited
insight into Kilimnik's communications with Manafort and into Kilimnik's communications with
other individuals connected to Russian influence operations, all of whom used communications
security practices. The Committee obtained some information suggesting Kilimnik may have
been connected to the GRU's hack and leak operation targeting the 2016 U.S. election.
until
Beginning while he was Campaign chairman and continuing
sed with Kilimnik a eace lan for eastern Ukraine that
After the election, Manafort continued to coordinate with
Russian persons, particularly Kilimnik and other individuals close to Deripaska, in an effort to
undertake activities on their behalf. Manafort worked with Kilimnik starting in 2016 on
narratives that sou ht to undermine evidence that Russia interfered in .the 2016 U.S.
election.

(U) The Committee found that Manafort's presence on the Campaign at;td proximity to
Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and
acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign. Taken as a whole, Manafort's high-
level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the
Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik and associates of Oleg Deripaska,
represented a grave counterintelligence threat
."
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Old 05-26-2022, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Did it really fail though? There are still people today that believe Trump was Putin's Puppet and in 2020 that lie and a whole heap of others swayed their vote.





The Lies, the Russian Collusion Hoax and the overall scorched earth (scorched America) tactics the Democrats used against Trump for 4 long years plus was like a slow sapping of everything we hold dear.



Talk about a real insurrection. The Democrats are very sneaky.
How would many know any different? They listen to or read sources like CNN, BSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, WaPoo, NYT and a host of others. Most don't even mention Hunter's laptop, the fact that the FBI and other intelligence sources lied about it and said it was bogus, most haven't heard that Durham has evidence that not only was the Russia-Trump Collusion a fabricated story, but that it was fabricated by Hillary Clinton herself, and pushed by the FBI, as well as the above media outlets, with no vetting or evidence. Most people are incredibly ignorant-because they only listen to the sources that confirm their biases and tell them what they want to hear.
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Old 05-26-2022, 10:57 AM
 
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The Steele Dossier cost us the greatest cheerleader for America.
You mean the guy who stood on a world stage and said that he believes Putin over every US intelligence agency who all agreed that Russia interfered in the election?

You call that a cheerleader?

That is literally the definition of treason -- giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

Can you imagine if Biden or Obama had done that? You guys would screaming for his impeachment. That *should* have been the end Trump right there. But you guys didn't blink an eye.
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Old 05-26-2022, 11:47 AM
 
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looking at the steele dossier says people lied about the sources of information, NOT the information itself....some of us have followed trump in the news for decades..he is just a shady new york businessman, i have never seen his TV show apprentice
so i was never sucked into his charisma
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Old 05-26-2022, 03:10 PM
 
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looking at the steele dossier says people lied about the sources of information, NOT the information itself....some of us have followed trump in the news for decades..he is just a shady new york businessman, i have never seen his TV show apprentice
so i was never sucked into his charisma
I've never seen the show Apprentice either. However, I did see him on the Oprah Winfrey show back in 1988. Take a look:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFrpsx3r--Q
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