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I wonder how many people are aware this is going on in schools. My daughter was completing 11% of her work when she transitioned from 8th grade to high school. I actually asked them if they could fail her. They didn't 'want to make her feel bad about herself'. Ugh. How can a parent hold a kid accountable when this goes on?
I wonder how many people are aware this is going on in schools. My daughter was completing 11% of her work when she transitioned from 8th grade to high school. I actually asked them if they could fail her. They didn't 'want to make her feel bad about herself'. Ugh. How can a parent hold a kid accountable when this goes on?
I have posted this before. This was happening in at least one Colorado school district 20 years ago. (And I was told that the kid had to consent to being held back!) I think it is a horrible policy.
If more kids were held back, maybe that would be the incentive they needed to actually do what is expected of them.
I'm glad to see this happening. It makes the private schools all that much better. Hopefully, parents will pull their kids out of failing public schools and put them in private schools.
I'm glad to see this happening. It makes the private schools all that much better. Hopefully, parents will pull their kids out of failing public schools and put them in private schools.
That seems unfair. You pull all the wealthy kids out of public schools and the poor kids who go to public are victims of this policy.
As a teacher, if I could find a school that taught the way it was done forty years ago, I'd be quitting and finding a job there. Things are not quite as bad in my subject matter as other subject matters, but it's getting there. I've often thought about doing some sort of private or community teaching service aimed at homeschoolers or small private community schools. If I were twenty years younger, I'd likely pursue that. I absolutely do not believe in the direction the school systems have been going for years now.
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Originally Posted by mirage98de
There is an evil force that is working hard to continue the dumbing down of the US population.
If you stop for a second and think of the reasons why, this is absolutely terrifying.
Agreed. An illiterate society is an easily manipulated society. Why do you think European royalty and clergy did everything they could to keep the "serfs" stupid? Or the slave owners of the old south did everything they could to keep any sort of academic knowledge from their slaves?
I do think the technique has changed a bit since those times, though. It seems the elite today want to give the masses the ILLUSION that they are being educated. But the masses are, in actuality, being fed propaganda masquerading as knowledge, fed lies, and fed outright garbage. And as it turns out, an indoctrinated society of idiots is far more dangerous to liberty than a society of just plain old everyday idiots.
I think there’s a difference between being held back in K-6 (which I disagree with) and failing a class in ms/hs (which I agree with). In my experience, most of those elementary kids being held back end up qualifying for special education services later in their education. Retaining them did nothing but delay intervention.
I'm glad to see this happening. It makes the private schools all that much better. Hopefully, parents will pull their kids out of failing public schools and put them in private schools.
This is why I support school vouchers.
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That seems unfair. You pull all the wealthy kids out of public schools and the poor kids who go to public are victims of this policy.
That is what I did think, but with school vouchers, I think it would be better. Where we are living now, a church opened a school on the "other" side of town. It was opened by a church with a black congregation. The boys dress up, and I suspect the girls, but I hadn't seen any of them. They were pulled from a real sorry school district. A school like that can be good, and associated with a church, you have a building, etc. already, it could be operated in an economical way keeping costs down.
I was actually surprised that in the smaller towns in KS, religious affliliated private schools were quite reasonable. I don't remember the exact cost, but something we could have afforded at the time, and we were basically in the area of an upper lower class income at that time.
I know some are not onboard with religious schools, but what happened to "charter" schools? I know when we were in AZ in the 1990s, they had become popular. My kids have been out of school for awhile.
The dumbing down has been going on for awhile now. My older son, now in his 40s, got in trouble for correcting the teacher's board work. She asked one day if he wanted to teach the 4th grade class, but when he stood up to go to the front, she told him to sit down. He used to bring me his papers and ask why she marked it wrong. I said "It's not wrong." I wrote in red, and he took it back to her. Yeah, I am the parent that teachers always loved! My son was not a troublemaker, and is now a Colonel in the Army Reserve.
Make the kids feel bad? That way they learn if they don't perform, they are going to end up feeling bad again.
That is what I did think, but with school vouchers, I think it would be better. Where we are living now, a church opened a school on the "other" side of town. It was opened by a church with a black congregation. The boys dress up, and I suspect the girls, but I hadn't seen any of them. They were pulled from a real sorry school district. A school like that can be good, and associated with a church, you have a building, etc. already, it could be operated in an economical way keeping costs down.
I was actually surprised that in the smaller towns in KS, religious affliliated private schools were quite reasonable. I don't remember the exact cost, but something we could have afforded at the time, and we were basically in the area of an upper lower class income at that time.
I know some are not onboard with religious schools, but what happened to "charter" schools? I know when we were in AZ in the 1990s, they had become popular. My kids have been out of school for awhile.
The dumbing down has been going on for awhile now. My older son, now in his 40s, got in trouble for correcting the teacher's board work. She asked one day if he wanted to teach the 4th grade class, but when he stood up to go to the front, she told him to sit down. He used to bring me his papers and ask why she marked it wrong. I said "It's not wrong." I wrote in red, and he took it back to her. Yeah, I am the parent that teachers always loved! My son was not a troublemaker, and is now a Colonel in the Army Reserve.
Make the kids feel bad? That way they learn if they don't perform, they are going to end up feeling bad again.
Agree! I support school choice. Money goes with the kid, not the school.
Ugh. How can a parent hold a kid accountable when this goes on?
Shut off internet access and take cell phone...or restrict it greatly and allow the priviledge back with performance.
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