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I get a kick out of people who come into threads and try to derail what the point of the thread is.
The point is not about protecting bees. We all understand bees are important. No one is upset about protecting bees.
The point is that the California legal system is stating bees are fish, in order to make a ruling they want to make. The court system is being an activist by making up its own rules.
They are legislating from the bench, rather than letting the legislatures do the job they should be doing. Might as well have the court system call Democrats, Liberals, EV's and Illegals fish, so they can be protected too.
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest
The confused thinking that got us here
Here's the story, Frank.
There's a problem with certain species of bees in California. California is a huge agricultural powerhouse, and bees are essential to agricultural food production.
Someone says well, we've got this existing governmental agency, the Fish and Game Commission, and they're capable of handling this. Let's hand off the Bee problem to them - they're already dealing with things that aren't fish and game, such as crawdads and snails. They're capable - how about that?
Normal people - "yes, that would be fine, that's a good solution".
Breitbart and their followers - "WHAT???? BEES AREN'T FISH! They should create an entire new governmental agency, the bumblebee agency, to solve this problem! Bees aren't fish! hahahahahahaha"
And these are the kinds of people we have running our country. How about we "rule" government officials to be cockroaches and deal with them accordingly?
It is not the purpose of the courts to re-interpret (making ludicrous stretches) or write new law. What's so wrong with doing what is intended here, but doing it the legitimate and non-braindead way? Is it really the case that none of these idiots in government ever took even a basic civics/government class even in junior high? Seems like we go out of our way to get the biggest knuckleheads in positions of power--the very definition of a kakistocracy.
I get a kick out of people who come into threads and try to derail what the point of the thread is.
The point is not about protecting bees. We all understand bees are important. No one is upset about protecting bees.
The point is that the California legal system is stating bees are fish, in order to make a ruling they want to make. The court system is being an activist by making up its own rules.
They are legislating from the bench, rather than letting the legislatures do the job they should be doing. Might as well have the court system call Democrats, Liberals, EV's and Illegals fish, so they can be protected too.
There's a problem with certain species of bees in California. California is a huge agricultural powerhouse, and bees are essential to agricultural food production.
Someone says well, we've got this existing governmental agency, the Fish and Game Commission, and they're capable of handling this. Let's hand off the Bee problem to them - they're already dealing with things that aren't fish and game, such as crawdads and snails. They're capable - how about that?
Normal people - "yes, that would be fine, that's a good solution".
Breitbart and their followers - "WHAT???? BEES AREN'T FISH! They should create an entire new governmental agency, the bumblebee agency, to solve this problem! Bees aren't fish! hahahahahahaha"
This is laughable! *Bees are not fish*
No one is against protecting bees. But, you cannot do so while calling them fish... Why is the Legislature not amending the law to include other animals or insects?
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Originally Posted by FordBronco1967
This is laughable! *Bees are not fish*
No one is against protecting bees. But, you cannot do so while calling them fish... Why is the Legislature not amending the law to include other animals or insects?
They've got an existing agency, up and running, who is willing to take this one without creating an entire new agency. They're saying let's lump bees in here, these guys are fully capable of understanding this problem and resolving it.
I get a kick out of people who come into threads and try to derail what the point of the thread is.
The point is not about protecting bees. We all understand bees are important. No one is upset about protecting bees.
The point is that the California legal system is stating bees are fish, in order to make a ruling they want to make. The court system is being an activist by making up its own rules.
They are legislating from the bench, rather than letting the legislatures do the job they should be doing. Might as well have the court system call Democrats, Liberals, EV's and Illegals fish, so they can be protected too.
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Originally Posted by Pilot1
^^^^^This. Thank you.
You are welcome.
Of course she is still going on and on about the importance of bess and walking right past what the thread is actually about.
Some people are just fixated on changing the point of the thread, rather than dealing with the actual point of the thread. Gotta protect Democrats at all costs.
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Originally Posted by FordBronco1967
This is laughable! *Bees are not fish*
No one is against protecting bees. But, you cannot do so while calling them fish... Why is the Legislature not amending the law to include other animals or insects?
They've got an existing agency, up and running, who is willing to take this one without creating an entire new agency. They're saying let's lump bees in here, these guys are fully capable of understanding this problem and resolving it.
And you're against that. And calling them nuts.
Amending laws takes time. Procedures, and all. Bees need help right now. Let's go to work, says the Fish and Game commission.
But you, and Breitbart, would rather they sit back and work this thing through the committees and call a vote.
Yep.
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