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Old 06-24-2022, 06:49 PM
 
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Once a person is vaccinated, there is no way to know how they would have reacted to covid without the vaccine.
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Old 06-24-2022, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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That cannot be proved. Each person reacts differently.
That is what I said. You cannot predict what will happen to an individual, but you can look at what happens to a group of people. As a group, vaccinated people are at lower risk of severe disease and death, especially older people.

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the vaccine exposes you to the virus...just like being exposed naturally

....no difference

everyone has been exposed by now....

only difference is you can't make money on natural exposure
Exposure does not guarantee infection. Not everyone has been infected.

Infection carries risks. Vaccinated people are less likely to have severe disease and die.
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Old 06-24-2022, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Once a person is vaccinated, there is no way to know how they would have reacted to covid without the vaccine.
However, you can compare a group of vaccinated people with a group of unvaccinated people and calculate the risks for each group.
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Old 06-24-2022, 06:58 PM
 
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However, you can compare a group of vaccinated people with a group of unvaccinated people and calculate the risks for each group.
Not really, everyone reacts differently.
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Old 06-24-2022, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I think we both know there is no level of proof you would find adequate that would change your impression of the good doctor. No matter what is said, what documentation is provided, you and your ilk will continue to raise the bar and disingenuously state that information is not adequate.
Quite the assumption. Please provide the proof you have that he hasn’t back pedaled, changed his story, etc…And if he’s a good doctor we’re in a whole lot of trouble going forward as he still doesn’t know what he’s talking about…though he did admit the virus isn’t going anywhere after first saying “we have nothing to worry about”, lol.
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Old 06-24-2022, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Not really, everyone reacts differently.
You cannot predict how an individual will react. You can calculate the risk of a particular outcome.

The risk of severe disease and death is lower if you are vaccinated.
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Old 06-24-2022, 07:01 PM
 
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Exposure does not guarantee infection.
neither does the vaccine...you can't claim one doesn't work...and claim the other does

....they are the same
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Old 06-24-2022, 07:02 PM
 
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You cannot predict how an individual will react. You can calculate the risk of a particular outcome.

The risk of severe disease and death is lower if you are vaccinated.
Statistics are never accurate.
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Old 06-24-2022, 07:02 PM
 
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Quite the assumption. Please provide the proof you have that he hasn’t back pedaled, changed his story, etc…And if he’s a good doctor we’re in a whole lot of trouble going forward as he still doesn’t know what he’s talking about…though he did admit the virus isn’t going anywhere after first saying “we have nothing to worry about”, lol.
What he has said has changed as the situation with the virus evolved. The initial expectation was that SARS-CoV-2 would behave like the original SARS. Unfortunately, that did not happen.
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Old 06-24-2022, 07:04 PM
 
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I just heard on CNBC that Florida is one of the few states that haven’t pre-ordered the vaccine for kids because the state health department feels that age group is so low risk, the vaccine isn’t warranted. The state won’t prevent parents from having their kids vaccinated, just that it won’t be required.
Yes, the risk for most kids is almost zero. They are at more risk from the vaccine than from the disease. So why was it approved for under 5 year olds?

And the research done by the vaccine makers to show safety and effectiveness was just bogus. According to Vinay Pasad and others.

I also heard that only 20% of parents plan on getting their under 5 year old kid vaccinated. So glad to hear that.
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