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Old 06-20-2022, 07:24 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Guess all these years later, Dan Quayle has been proven that he was right.

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As our country commemorates Father’s Day this weekend, it is important that we recognize the millions of children throughout our nation who are growing up without their fathers. Data from the United States Census Bureau shows that nearly 18.5 million children grow up without their fathers, which has in return led to the United States owning the title of the world’s leader in fatherlessness.

We know that fatherhood is essential to the development of our children and that the increased involvement of fathers in the home leads to better results on a wide variety of outcomes. From economic prosperity, increased academic performance, to improved social mobility; fathers in their respective homes continues to be a key indicator of success for all children across racial, ethnic, and socio-economic groups. That is why we have joined forces to introduce a resolution into the U.S. House of Representatives that promotes fatherhood and its proven benefit to society.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/america-crisis-fathers
It's time certain community leaders take a leaf from early, pre-PUSH Jesse Jackson. In the April 18, 1976 New York Times Magazine, before he degenerated into a rabble-rouser, Jesse Jackson wrote a beautiful four-page article entitled Give the People a Vision (link). Among other things he said:
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There is a definite welfare mentality in many black communities that derives perhaps from. slavery but that must now be overcome.

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We are allowing a minuscule minority of criminals in our midst to create disorder, ruin our schools and sap the energy we need to rebuild our neighborhoods and our cities. Many leaders who are black, and many white liberals, will object to my discussing these things in public. But the decadence in black communities--killings, destruction of our own businesses, violence in the schools--is already in the headlines....
Unless he was just trying to appear respectable for fund raising, he nailed it.
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Old 06-20-2022, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Originally Posted by erieguy View Post
especially when women choose who to mate and/or marry…while so many are so desperate to be married with children and choose poorly.

How does one choose something? Anything?

No one is desperate to get married and have children.

it never ceases to amaze me how people can be ignorant to the fact that people change. Its also hilarious that you say this about women but never men even though there have just been a number of post about how its more men that are married to women who destroy the marriage, commit adultery, are selfish, put the family into bankruptcy and physically and mentally abuse the entire family who seemed like nice people but just out of the blue.....
Why do men choose so poorly?
Are you saying women don’t have a choice and are forced to mate or marry someone they don’t choose to?

There’s certainly women that are desperate to marry and have kids..and let’s not act like many women get pregnant on purpose to try to keep a man.

Lol. Proof to men ruining the marriage more than women, and please be specific?

Blaming men for everything and not accepting any responsibility is a great way to end up single/divorced.

Men and women both choose poorly as many want to be married/married with children.

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Old 06-21-2022, 06:52 AM
 
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mothers pick the fathers of their children. women, pick men that make good husbands and good fathers!
Please stop blaming women for men's failures.
Where do you think women pick the fathers of their children other than a sperm bank?

I wonder if you have ever dated because that is hardly how dating, relationships, marriage, and parenthood works.

If we could see through all the BS, lies, best foot forward, baggage, trauma, etc. in each other when dating and people did not change over time then perhaps there would not be so much divorce and abandonment an men would be good husbands and fathers and women would be good wives and mothers.
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Old 06-21-2022, 06:56 AM
 
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I am fine with more tax money going toward the obvious result of many more single parent families, including feeding/housing a whole lot more children plus finding better schools for them plus the larger manpower needed to find abusive homes and remove the children plus therapy and whatever else will be needed, but I wonder if everyone is.
Of course not. People already complain about women using government assistance, tax dollars going to public schools, God forbid tax dollars go to daycare or we have any sort of mandated maternity or family leave.
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Old 06-21-2022, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Please stop blaming women for men's failures.
Where do you think women pick the fathers of their children other than a sperm bank?

I wonder if you have ever dated because that is hardly how dating, relationships, marriage, and parenthood works.

If we could see through all the BS, lies, best foot forward, baggage, trauma, etc. in each other when dating and people did not change over time then perhaps there would not be so much divorce and abandonment an men would be good husbands and fathers and women would be good wives and mothers.
Why do you always blame men for supposed failures?

Where do you live that you don’t have a choice to marry or not marry someone and have their kids or not?

It’s exactly how it works. You decide whether or not to continue dating someone and ultimately decide if you want to marry them and have kids or not. If you don’t want to, you continue to date others until you find the person you want to marry.

Folks that can’t see the BS, lies, best foot forward, etc…, while dating, aren’t dating that person long enough before getting married.
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Old 06-21-2022, 07:17 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Please stop blaming women for men's failures.
Where do you think women pick the fathers of their children other than a sperm bank?

I wonder if you have ever dated because that is hardly how dating, relationships, marriage, and parenthood works.

If we could see through all the BS, lies, best foot forward, baggage, trauma, etc. in each other when dating and people did not change over time then perhaps there would not be so much divorce and abandonment an men would be good husbands and fathers and women would be good wives and mothers.
Dating does not have to end in sex, or unprotected sex. Women make the ultimate reproductive decisions. Sorry but that's just biology. Condoms give males some preventative role but only a woman can make an affirmative decision to engage in reproductive activities, despite the dictates of wokedom.
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Old 06-21-2022, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Dating does not have to end in sex, or unprotected sex. Women make the ultimate reproductive decisions. Sorry but that's just biology. Condoms give males some preventative role but only a woman can make an affirmative decision to engage in reproductive activities, despite the dictates of wokedom.

Maybe so......but a lot of men are certainly no help in supporting women's decisions.
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Old 06-21-2022, 07:49 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Any suggestions how?

Part of the problem is that for any short coming, it is usually the government that steps in.....and we know that won't work.
We need to teach schoolchildren about the value and sanctity of traditional marriage between a man and a woman. Children of appropriate age need to be educated about the dire statistics about single-parent households.

There need to be severe punishments and penalties for any parent who abandons their children except for unusual circumstances.

Divorce has to be made much more difficult and expensive for all people involved.

Get back to traditional values and no more "experimentation" with things that don't work in society.
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Old 06-21-2022, 08:10 AM
 
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Nick Fuentes made a funny comment recently, he said isn't it almost weird, ironic that Juneteenth is so close to father's day? The day where we celebrate black American freedom is next to father's day, which demographics has an extremely high fatherless rate?


The Extent of Fatherlessness


https://fathers.com/statistics-and-r...atherlessness/



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Old 06-21-2022, 08:13 AM
 
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We need to teach schoolchildren about the value and sanctity of traditional marriage between a man and a woman. Children of appropriate age need to be educated about the dire statistics about single-parent households.

There need to be severe punishments and penalties for any parent who abandons their children except for unusual circumstances.

Divorce has to be made much more difficult and expensive for all people involved.

Get back to traditional values and no more "experimentation" with things that don't work in society.

I know technically the above could be done without a religious approach, but realistically a religion approach is the only way. Christianity would be the answer, God fearing, moral Christians can achieve that.


Again I know technically speaking Atheist can do the above, but lets be honest, as Christianity falls, so do the values. It is not just correlation, it is causation. "Do as thou Wilt, Marriage is not a binding contract, women are strong go sleep around,"


A REAL right wing movement could achieve it. A real right wing. Something I know most of you probably can't even imagine. Not Trump, the divroced pro LGBTQZ gluttonous man who loves seeing his name everywhere. A REAL CHRISTIAN.
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