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the candidate (and then once elected) for that election is the head of the party at the time.
so if the DNC was looking to change the votes... and Hillary is the so called "head of the party" at the time...then yes she was looking to get the votes changed
From the Politico link you shared:
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n any case, it’s hard to know exactly how many faithless electors may be out there because there’s no organized effort by candidates or parties to whip votes or track support.
How would this give Dems the house. This just changes election for electoral votes for presidential elections. It does not change how reps and senators are elected which is popular vote statewide.
And it passed the house but not the senate anyways.
Either way GOP needs at least one of the house or the senate because if the dems control both without a Joe Manchin to save us we are doomed to Marxism/Communism.
Seems pretty benign. It's obviously just a stunt so they can claim some attempt at election reform. Practically speaking, it won't really change outcomes. I suppose when you don't have a real platform on which to stand, the only option is to resort to political posturing.
I'm fully aware that this cannot be done. The current system is a mess where only a dozen states are in play. Then again so are things like gerrymandering, lack of term limits, the 2 corrupt parties, polarization, lobbying...
The US is not democratic in any meaningful way on issues of the true elite making money. The country is run by billionaires for billionaires. They let us fight over abortion because they do not care. They let people complain because nothing will happen to change the part about the country being run by and for the billionaires.
So we come here to argue. LOL.
Your doom and gloom sounds like Jim Jones telling his followers there is nothing else to do but drink the Kool-Aid.
The Electoral College is not going away. A proposed amendment to change or eliminate the Electoral College requires ratification by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States). One of the reasons for the Electoral College was to protect states rights, which was a major concern at the time the Constitution was drafted. It gives states with lower populations more say in electing a President. Why would the 13 states with three or four electoral votes vote to ratify an amendment that takes that power away from them?
The original Constitution says very little about elections. The amendments that have been added simply increased the number of people who had the right to vote.
House passes election reform bill to curb interference; 9 Republicans join Democrats
The House on Wednesday approved a post-Jan. 6 election reform bill intended to blunt future challenges to presidential elections.
The Presidential Election Reform Act, crafted largely by Reps. Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif., and Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., passed by a 229-203 vote, with nine Republicans joining the Democratic majority in favor of it.
Thanks to Liz Cheney for co-sponsoring and helping draft this legislation. She is almost alone among Congressional Republicans in honoring the oath she took to protect & preserve the Constitution.
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Hopefully they'll do it so we don't have a repeat of a year and a half ago.
I agree. This bill is the most significant legislative answer yet to the insurrection and the monthslong campaign by the defeated and disgraced Trump and his allies to invalidate the 2020 presidential election.
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This seems like a sensible measure that will hopefully prevent such shenanigans in the future. Both par ties should be supporting this.
Yes, but they aren't. Sigh. All but nine Republicans opposed the measure, fearful of angering their leader Trump.
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Seems pretty benign. It's obviously just a stunt so they can claim some attempt at election reform. Practically speaking, it won't really change outcomes. I suppose when you don't have a real platform on which to stand, the only option is to resort to political posturing.
Yawn. This is non-news.
This is no stunt. It is the first major step to respond to the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on our nation. It is an overhaul of the 135-year-old Electoral Count Act, the law that the twice impeached insurrectionist named Trump tried to exploit that day to overturn his defeat.
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I'm fully aware that this cannot be done. The current system is a mess where only a dozen states are in play. Then again so are things like gerrymandering, lack of term limits, the 2 corrupt parties, polarization, lobbying...
The US is not democratic in any meaningful way on issues of the true elite making money. The country is run by billionaires for billionaires. They let us fight over abortion because they do not care. They let people complain because nothing will happen to change the part about the country being run by and for the billionaires.
So we come here to argue. LOL.
Understood and agree 100%.
There's many reasons why I don't vote, but right behind the #1 reason of not even consenting to their rigged game is the #2 reason that it is utterly pointless because as you said, it is a game played by billionaires, for billionaires, with only billionaires having any possible effect on the outcome.
Since roughly the 1790s, we've been an evolving oligarchy. As it stands now, we are a thug-oligarchy backed by an unelected, unaccountable, faceless bureaucracy. Nothing democratic, representative, constitutional or republican (small "r" PoliSci version of the word) about our government. Just another form of aristocratic tyranny. Nothing new under the Sun.
Excellent. Anything that stops all of the fake posturing over election results I'm for. All of this "stop the steal" foolishness from people, 99% of whom have never actually learned how votes are counted and elections work, but are easily whipped up into a frenzy by opportunistic politicians. This needs to come to an end. If a party can't win an election (D's or R's) they need to blame themselves and their policies.
Hopefully something good will come of this, but I won't be holding my breath.
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It is the first major step to respond to the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on our nation. It is an overhaul of the 135-year-old Electoral Count Act, the law that the twice impeached insurrectionist named Trump tried to exploit that day to overturn his defeat.