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View Poll Results: Should contraceptives be made illegal
Yes, the purpose of having sexual relations is to produce children 20 12.20%
No, there’s sexual relations for any other reason 144 87.80%
Voters: 164. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-30-2022, 08:47 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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More misinformation. Show me their attempt to ban or make it illegal.
If you want shivers down your spine, read Clarence Thomas' concurrence.
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Old 06-30-2022, 08:57 PM
 
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If you want shivers down your spine, read Clarence Thomas' concurrence.
If you want any credibility, show me proof of your allegations against Hobby Lobby.
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Old 07-01-2022, 02:19 AM
 
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There are people that do think like that. Some Catholics and Mormons, some Evangelicals.....
The Pope knows that condoms are necessary. So did the previous Pope. Us8ng Catholicism as an excuse doesn't hold up.
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Old 07-01-2022, 04:13 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Yeah, I have heard that...but I just don't understand why. I've never been religious, so I don't see the logic in it.

Is sex supposed to be some dirty act if it isn't for the sole purpose of reproducing?
I remember hearing people say that back in the day. Sex was dirty until married. Then it was assumed married people did it but did not talk about sex.
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Old 07-01-2022, 04:49 AM
 
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Yes, or well it should be very limited.

Women I talk to... secretly... realize the folly of their ways with regard to unlimited sexual activity. They also realize they probably won't be able to convince young women of the need to curtail it.

Why should men buy the cow when the milk is free? And we start to see more and more women alone... birth rate... in the trash.

Why shouldn't men in relationships cheat when most women they meet are offering... and they do and either break up their marriage or the woman just has to deal with it.

The government reducing access would actually be a favor to women so the irresponsible might have to curtail their activities.
Wow.....limiting folks' decisions and options because it's for their own good!!!! Gilead here we come.
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Old 07-01-2022, 07:09 AM
 
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Wow.....limiting folks' decisions and options because it's for their own good!!!! Gilead here we come.
Not everyone wants to go through the 'thinking' process.

The Do not interfere with my right for selfish, self centered decisions mindset is always prevalent.
Most laws of the land are for "limiting folks' decisions and options because it's for their own good".

You may disagree all you want, but adultery is still grounds for divorce, fraudulent behavior is still a crime and punching someone in the face or pinching someone on the butt can still bring an assault charge.

Sorry to limit your activities but following laws could keep you from being fined or tossed in jail. That is for your own good, nothing new.

Now, there are good laws and bad laws, but they are still laws put in place to guide your decisions.
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Old 07-03-2022, 04:26 PM
 
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Not everyone wants to go through the 'thinking' process.

The Do not interfere with my right for selfish, self centered decisions mindset is always prevalent.
Most laws of the land are for "limiting folks' decisions and options because it's for their own good".

You may disagree all you want, but adultery is still grounds for divorce, fraudulent behavior is still a crime and punching someone in the face or pinching someone on the butt can still bring an assault charge.

Sorry to limit your activities but following laws could keep you from being fined or tossed in jail. That is for your own good, nothing new.

Now, there are good laws and bad laws, but they are still laws put in place to guide your decisions.
Most states are no-fault divorce states anymore. Yea, adultery probably break up a marriage, but kinda meaningless for the actual divorce. You dont have to prove your spouse broke one of the biblical commandments to get a divorce. Well unless the fundie justices reverse that too. Thing is all this judicial reversals just makes everything a political football. The other party gets a majority, guess what Roe is back with a vengence. LOL This Supreme Court back and forth based on political partisanship is a bad thing. They arent even pretending anymore.
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