'Night of rage' protests erupt into violence across the country: Fox News HQ targeted, fireworks shot at police, pro-lif (Marines, Brown)
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I don't advocate violence, I respect the law and the police, but...
Sometimes people can be very upset when they have a right stripped away from them...
And when they feel the Government has tried to usurp power from them in their own personal lives to make personal decisions regarding their health and personal lives.
Because everyone knows that some Politician is better at deciding what is best for you, and determining the life you live, than you are. Ultimate nanny state and all that.
Nobody likes losing a right, nobody likes being told what to do, especially to this extent.
The Government has grown too big, and thinks it can tell people how to live their lives.
Government overreach is something that can inspire strong reactions in people.
Especially when they feel they have lost some autonomy and some freedom.
Yes, like when the federal government tried to implement vaccine mandates. People protested peacefully and it was shot down by the SC. The mandates were unconstitutional as was federal position on abortion previously. Another similarity? The constitution won out in both cases.
Remember that Rosa Parks was BREAKING the law when she refused to move seats, she is even remembered for saying, "it is the duty of citizens to break unjust laws".
And we honor and celebrate her and others like her today, (but at the time, they were viewed as criminals).
Something to keep in mind!
I have trouble when people try to compare not giving up your seat with torching business' and federal/police buildings. But that's just me.
Remember that Rosa Parks was BREAKING the law when she refused to move seats, she is even remembered for saying, "it is the duty of citizens to break unjust laws".
And we honor and celebrate her and others like her today, (but at the time, they were viewed as criminals).
Something to keep in mind!
Rosa Parks might have broken the law, but her protest ( by refusing to change seats), was entirely peaceful. The original question was- when did peaceful protests ever result in change? I gave several well known examples.
And the violence continues on. What is laughable, is these dolts are marching like abortion was completely banned. Talk about misguided anger. No wonder our society is coming unglued...to many idiots.
Originally Posted by Crazee Cat Lady I don't advocate violence, I respect the law and the police, but...
Sometimes people can be very upset when they have a right stripped away from them...
And when they feel the Government has tried to usurp power from them in their own personal lives to make personal decisions regarding their health and personal lives.
Because everyone knows that some Politician is better at deciding what is best for you, and determining the life you live, than you are. Ultimate nanny state and all that.
Nobody likes losing a right, nobody likes being told what to do, especially to this extent.
The Government has grown too big, and thinks it can tell people how to live their lives.
Government overreach is something that can inspire strong reactions in people.
Especially when they feel they have lost some autonomy and some freedom.
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Originally Posted by BeerGeek40
Nobody likes being told what to do....
Do you mean like..... get this experimental vaccine or lose your job?
Spare me your outrage.
Spare me yours.
I didn't advocate mandatory vaccines by the Government. Never did.
(Although I believe it was the wise, sane thing to do...and to get all this behind us).
Private employers can have stipulations like this (this is not the same as the Government doing it)
Covid cost them a fortune. I can see why they might want to protect their employees and customers.
Surely, you are not against Capitalism.
And obviously you are not a woman...pregnancy entails a lot more than just a shot in the arm....
it is nine long months, and after that a whole other 21 years or so....lets be honest, it involves the rest of someone's life. It can cost them there education, career outcome, life outcome and it can cost them
the moral support of their family.
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And the violence continues on. What is laughable, is these dolts are marching like abortion was completely banned. Talk about misguided anger. No wonder our society is coming unglued...to many idiots.
Certain politicians like Pence, are already calling for a Federal band on Abortions across the entire country.
Rich women, middle class women will still be able to travel to New York or LA or Toronto to get an abortion. But poor women will not be able to afford to do that.
This has been settled law for 50 years. People don't like it when you take away rights and freedom from them.
I guess you think some Politician know whats best for your life, and should make your decisions regarding your future and fate, better than you could. I don't.
That is not Free. It is not America.
It is like we have stepped into a time machine and went back to the 1950's.
Maybe some people like that. I do not, and many do not.
And if they can so easily take away one right, they can take away any right.
Certain politicians like Pence, are already calling for a Federal band on Abortions across the entire country.
Rich women, middle class women will still be able to travel to New York or LA or Toronto to get an abortion. But poor women will not be able to afford to do that.
This has been settled law for 50 years. People don't like it when you take away rights and freedom from them. I guess you think some Politician know whats best for your life, and should make your decisions regarding your future and fate, better than you could. I don't.
That is not Free. It is not America.
It is like we have stepped into a time machine and went back to the 1950's.
Maybe some people like that. I do not, and many do not.
And if they can so easily take away one right, they can take away any right.
Yeah, so ? The states would over ride that any way. Just like the marijuana laws. It's illegal at the Fed level, but legal in 19 states currently.
And this is where you are wrong. At the moment, how much influence does your vote make when it comes to the SCOTUS ? Pretty much zilch. Now how much influence does your vote have at the state level ? Much more. Now, with the states in control, you have more of a say.
That being said, I personally don't think the government, either at the Fed level or State level should be involved with this.
Certain politicians like Pence, are already calling for a Federal band on Abortions across the entire country.
Rich women, middle class women will still be able to travel to New York or LA or Toronto to get an abortion. But poor women will not be able to afford to do that.
This has been settled law for 50 years. People don't like it when you take away rights and freedom from them.
I guess you think some Politician know whats best for your life, and should make your decisions regarding your future and fate, better than you could. I don't.
That is not Free. It is not America.
It is like we have stepped into a time machine and went back to the 1950's.
Maybe some people like that. I do not, and many do not.
And if they can so easily take away one right, they can take away any right.
A federally mandated nationwide ban on abortions would violate the 10th Amendment......oh wait, the pro-choice crowd hates the 10th Amendment. Such a conundrum. What to do?
For what seems like the millionth time:
SCOTUS overturning Roe v Wade is not an abortion ban. Do you understand?
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