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Let's get something straight. Abortion is simply defined as the termination of a pregnancy. Put another way, it is the prevention of a human life from being born.
Abortion has NOTHING TO DO with the health of a woman, reproductive or otherwise.
Let me repeat:
Abortion has nothing to do with a woman's reproductive health. Let's stop referring to it as such.
Thank you.
Is it Dr. BigCityDreamer, M.D.?
Reproductive health:
Reproductive health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity, in all matters relating to the reproductive system and to its functions and processes. Reproductive health implies that people are able to have a satisfying and safe sex life and that they have the capability to reproduce and the freedom to decide if, when and how often to do so.
WHO
Just two articles today on how abortion has nothing to do with the health of a woman.
However, in my own personal opinion, until that individual developing inside the uterus is viable, I believe the wishes of the woman who has to carry and deliver are paramount. Regardless of the reason.
I personally don’t think it’s right to kill a viable, healthy foetus once it can survive outside the womb, however I will caveat - given individual circumstances that prompt late term abortions are so stressful and personally impactful to the prospective parents, I do not want anyone to make that decision except for them on the advice and guidance of their doctor/s.
I don’t want to see families petitioning the courts to allow them to end the suffering of a baby that has a condition incompatible with life.
I don’t want to see a family that’s made that decision have to travel to do it.
I don’t want to see anymore heartbreak than is already occurring, because the state is sticking it’s nose into people’s medical decisions.
So even though I think it’s reasonable to ban abortion of a foetus that can live outside the womb in theory, because there are some very tragic circumstances that require parents to make difficult decisions I don’t agree with it in practice.
I don’t believe the exceptions for health of the mother or foetal disability will be honoured in all circumstances without being contested. There will be tragedies either way, but I support that we allow people to make their own decisions even though a small few will make a decision I don’t agree with.
So it’s nobody’s business when, why or how another decides to terminate.
However, in my own personal opinion, until that individual developing inside the uterus is viable, I believe the wishes of the woman who has to carry and deliver are paramount. Regardless of the reason.
I personally don’t think it’s right to kill a viable, healthy foetus once it can survive outside the womb, however I will caveat - given individual circumstances that prompt late term abortions are so stressful and personally impactful to the prospective parents, I do not want anyone to make that decision except for them on the advice and guidance of their doctor/s.
I don’t want to see families petitioning the courts to allow them to end the suffering of a baby that has a condition incompatible with life.
I don’t want to see a family that’s made that decision have to travel to do it.
I don’t want to see anymore heartbreak than is already occurring, because the state is sticking it’s nose into people’s medical decisions.
So even though I think it’s reasonable to ban abortion of a foetus that can live outside the womb in theory, because there are some very tragic circumstances that require parents to make difficult decisions I don’t agree with it in practice.
I don’t believe the exceptions for health of the mother or foetal disability will be honoured in all circumstances without being contested. There will be tragedies either way, but I support that we allow people to make their own decisions even though a small few will make a decision I don’t agree with.
So it’s nobody’s business when, why or how another decides to terminate.
When you say it’s nobody’s business, that implies that it only impacts the women which is what I was responding to.
I’m pro elective abortion rights to a point. I just don’t think calling abortion reproductive healthcare is accurate terminology. It’s an elective medical procedure that terminates a pregnancy. In the case of serious medical issues that are threatening the life of mom the label fits but most of the time, it doesn’t.
Last edited by MissTerri; 07-11-2022 at 06:04 PM..
When you say it’s nobody’s business, that implies that it only impacts the women which is what I was responding to.
I’m pro elective abortion rights to a point. I just don’t think calling abortion reproductive healthcare is accurate terminology. It’s an elective medical procedure that terminates a pregnancy. In the case of serious medical issues that are threatening the life of mom the label fits but most of the time, it doesn’t.
What do you think women’s reproductive health care means? Where do you think the embryo embeds in a woman’s body? What do you think those organs are called? Why is it a problem to call it healthcare?
What do you think women’s reproductive health care means? Where do you think the embryo embeds in a woman’s body? What do you think those organs are called? Why is it a problem to call it healthcare?
Killing a human life isn't usually called health care. Doctors and hospitals get sued for malpractice when they kill.
However, in my own personal opinion, until that individual developing inside the uterus is viable, I believe the wishes of the woman who has to carry and deliver are paramount. Regardless of the reason.
I personally don’t think it’s right to kill a viable, healthy foetus once it can survive outside the womb, however I will caveat - given individual circumstances that prompt late term abortions are so stressful and personally impactful to the prospective parents, I do not want anyone to make that decision except for them on the advice and guidance of their doctor/s.
I don’t want to see families petitioning the courts to allow them to end the suffering of a baby that has a condition incompatible with life.
I don’t want to see a family that’s made that decision have to travel to do it.
I don’t want to see anymore heartbreak than is already occurring, because the state is sticking it’s nose into people’s medical decisions.
So even though I think it’s reasonable to ban abortion of a foetus that can live outside the womb in theory, because there are some very tragic circumstances that require parents to make difficult decisions I don’t agree with it in practice.
I don’t believe the exceptions for health of the mother or foetal disability will be honoured in all circumstances without being contested. There will be tragedies either way, but I support that we allow people to make their own decisions even though a small few will make a decision I don’t agree with.
So it’s nobody’s business when, why or how another decides to terminate.
My daughter’s SIL is experiencing all the things you don’t want to happen right now. She’s 22 weeks pregnant with a fetus that has severe anomalies incompatible with life outside the womb. And she’s not been able to find an appointment for the termination doctors are recommending due to the few places/doctors who do later term abortions being overrun by women who can’t get care in their States. NC (her home State) is out because after 20 weeks, you can only get a termination due to the mother’s life being at risk. VA is 24 weeks, but no appointments within that timeframe. She’s now looking at having to traveling to MA.
It’s a tragedy compounded by policies that believe a woman having to carry to term, go through labor to only hold her baby as it dies is not the height of cruelty. It’s disgusting.
My daughter’s SIL is experiencing all the thing you don’t want to happen right now. She’s 22 weeks pregnant with a fetus that has severe anomalies incompatible with life outside the womb. And she’s not been able to find an appointment for the termination doctors are recommending due to the few places/doctors who do later term abortions being overrun by women who can’t get care in their States. NC (her home State) is out because after 20 weeks, you can only get a termination due to the mother’s life being at risk. VA is 24 weeks, but no appointments within that timeframe. She’s now looking at having to traveling to MA.
It’s a tragedy compounded by policies that believe a woman having to carry to term, go through labor to only hold her baby as it dies is not the height of cruelty. It’s disgusting.
Nope. I already told you there's an injunction in place blocking NC's 20 weeks law. She should have no problem terminating the pregnancy of a fetus with severe anomalies in NC.
Yes. 95% of unintended pregnancies are the result of women VOLUNTARILY participating in unprotected sex, by their own admission (Guttmacher). That's a choice. They've already made their choice to accept pregnancy as an outcome of their own actions.
And what is that percentage if you count only pregnancies that get aborted, rather than all pregnancies?
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