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Old 08-14-2022, 02:37 PM
 
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Nearly all FBI crime stats are per convictions not arrests.

How is the 13/50% stuff very misleading? It's very easy to call out a statistical claim as false it's another to make a cogent argument as to why or how.
Just subtle ways to try and justify a holocaust when you wanna get people to believe that a group is inherently dangerous. Then you vaguely ask for “solutions”, we know where that leads to. Something akin to a “final solution”.

There’s already a cop on video describing just that.


[url]https://youtube.com/watch?v=-TCZ66XQPes[/url]

 
Old 08-14-2022, 02:56 PM
 
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For reference:


https://i.ibb.co/VxkqtcC/Race-Firearm-Homicide-Rate.png



The low homicide rate among American Whites (Non-Hispanic) is on par or just slightly higher than the homicide rates you find in most European nations.

The high homicide rate among Black Americans is comparable to the high homicide rates you find in many western, central, or southern African nations, and Caribbean nations such as Haiti.

The low homicide rate among Asian Americans is comparable to the low homicide rates you find back in their respective Asian nations.

The homicide rate among Hispanic Americans is actually lower than all of the central American nations.
Okay. What is the end goal here? Everyone knows what the statistics are. What is supposed to be the end goal for? What do you hope to get out of it, other than for the sake of just saying so?
 
Old 08-14-2022, 02:58 PM
 
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“You want to know what this [war on drugs] was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying?

We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news.

Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”

~ John Ehrlichman, Assistant to the President for Domestic Affairs
The irony of this, is that Nixon was the one who proposed affirmative action. It does bring up this question? Why the need to stir up resentment towards Black people for political clout?
 
Old 08-14-2022, 03:02 PM
 
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Just subtle ways to try and justify a holocaust when you wanna get people to believe that a group is inherently dangerous. Then you vaguely ask for “solutions”, we know where that leads to. Something akin to a “final solution”.

There’s already a cop on video describing just that.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=-TCZ66XQPes



That's an intellectual two-step not a solid response.



Do you believe the FBI is lying per racial crime convictions? Or somehow black people should be held to differing set of standards per violent crime?
 
Old 08-14-2022, 03:22 PM
 
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No one else is going to say it so I will, blacks are inheritantly more violent, statistics don't lie.
Per capita. a majority of murders are Black on Black. That still leaves 99.9% of the Black population that doesn't commit murder. For that reason, I find your assessment of "Black people are inherently violent" to be disingenuous.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 03:23 PM
 
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May be interesting to see a chart based on income too.

It may seem intuitive that more poor people commit crimes, maybe homicide differs?
Per capita, Black people tend to be poorer, tend to live around more violence. A higher per capita level of being raised in broken homes.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 03:30 PM
 
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Per capita. a majority of murders are Black on Black. That still leaves 99.9% of the Black population that doesn't commit murder. For that reason, I find your assessment of "Black people are inherently violent" to be disingenuous.
That's a point that everyone should understand. An overwhelming super-majority of black people are law abiding citizens.


Per the black on black angle I hope you are not implying that black victims are less important than white or other victims?
 
Old 08-14-2022, 03:37 PM
 
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Honolulu is a very diverse city and it has a low murder rate. What's your point?


Not all "diversity" is created equal.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 04:03 PM
 
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That's a point that everyone should understand. An overwhelming super-majority of black people are law abiding citizens.


Per the black on black angle I hope you are not implying that black victims are less important than white or other victims?
I'm not trying to imply that Black victims are less important. Just stating that the majority of murders are Black on Black and that it still doesn't amount to Black people being inherently violent.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 05:25 PM
 
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These same statistics cane be, and I believe are, used by people as evidence that the system is stacked against certain demographic groups.

Just saying. Statistics like these can mean different things to different people, which is why simply comparing and contrasting without more analysis isn't particularly helpful.
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