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Old 08-14-2022, 01:03 PM
 
Location: NYC
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No one else is going to say it so I will, blacks are inheritantly more violent, statistics don't lie.
May be interesting to see a chart based on income too.

It may seem intuitive that more poor people commit crimes, maybe homicide differs?

 
Old 08-14-2022, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Sammamish, WA
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No one else is going to say it so I will, blacks are inheritantly more violent, statistics don't lie.
Higher testosterone levels and a higher prevalence of the 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene might offer a genetic explanation:

LINKS:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24326626/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3693622/
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...016.00001/full

In the future some sort of gene therapy could be developed to make convicts less aggressive and less violent, although the implications of changing human behavior via intrusively changing people's genetics might sound a bit dystopian.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 01:30 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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The statistics are pretty clear. Of course, a certain segment of our population will either deny that or try to explain it away, rather than taking it for what it is and trying to do something that will actually help with the issue. Quit excusing and start doing.

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No one else is going to say it so I will, blacks are inheritantly more violent, statistics don't lie.
Not quite right. How about a larger percentage of blacks are more violent than in other races. There is a difference. When one just says categorically "blacks," one is implying that every black is more violent. That is incorrect. When we look at statistics, we need to understand what those statistics actually say. It's not a categorical thing.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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You did not explicitly say that in the beginning. I think you are backpedaling for reasons of plausible deniability. I'm also willing to bet this is yet another "life is so much better without (insert ethnicity) around" kind of thread.
this person make the "Black people bad" threads comparing cities at least weekly.

See, pointing out that factually, most crime is committed by a small % of Black people isn't enough. One must paint a picture where "Black people are criminals!"
 
Old 08-14-2022, 01:42 PM
 
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Reading this thread shows really what the problem is. We all know Black Males commit crimes drastically more percentage wise than any other group. Yet we sit here and debate the language somebody is using and dance around calling each other racist. You can never start to truly examine a problem and try to find a solution until you accept the reality of the problem. And it's Black Crime in America. So instead of getting defensive about it or dancing around the Racist issue How the Heck to we find a way to fix it. It seems a very complex issue with no single cause. Poverty is obviously a factor, but there are millions in poverty who dont commit crimes. No father in the household also a factor and a lack of male role models. Lack of choices, if you live in a ghetto where you environment is filled with thugs and criminals this is who you grow to admire and learn from.

I really dont know what would be the best cause of action no solution will be simple or easy or frankly cheap. It sure would be nice if we really sat down together, especially those who are most effected by this crime and try to find solutions that aren't just a continuation of decades long policies that have obviously failed and likely made things worse. Stop throwing good money after bad and admit we messed it up and try something else.
Not just poverty, but drugs being pushed into these communities (because who in the hood has the money to move these drugs?). Then you bring on the war on drugs.

All designed to sabotage black communities. This was around when the black panthers were big. So it’s no coincidence that they murdered the leader and destabilized the community. So this left the community in shambles since all the important leaders get killed.

You also include policies designed to actively discriminate such as red lining, aka barring black people from being able to buy.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Southeast US
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Lol, an Okie layin wood to Lincoln. Imagine that

It would be interesting to do a side-by-side of Lincoln NE vs Stillwater OK.

good lord at quick glance Stillwater has got to be a horrible place to live, generally.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...rnia/IPE120220
 
Old 08-14-2022, 01:48 PM
 
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No one else is going to say it so I will, blacks are inheritantly more violent, statistics don't lie.
This is propaganda fed to the public since the end of American Chattel Slavery. Designed around justifying anti-black laws that were made to incarcerate black folks in order to force them back into slavery via the 13 amendment.

When you hear 13/50(13% of the population, 50% of the crime), it’s very misleading.
The propaganda stated above went on and still goes on. This lead to Brandon’s crime bill and the idea of “super predators”. With that they also over-police the communities which leads to more encounters which means a higher likelihood of arrests and violent encounters.

And note that arrest doesn’t mean guilty.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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Looking at the actual demographics of Stockton, it is slightly less Black and far more Asian than the national average, which directly contradicts some of the assertions made in this thread.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fa...a,US/PST045221

The key problems in that city are not race related; rather the local economy is underdeveloped, and cheaper housing than the nearby San Francisco Bay Area has resulted in a large concentration of residents in or near poverty levels, or commuting long distances to work.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 02:19 PM
 
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This is propaganda fed to the public since the end of American Chattel Slavery. Designed around justifying anti-black laws that were made to incarcerate black folks in order to force them back into slavery via the 13 amendment.

When you hear 13/50(13% of the population, 50% of the crime), it’s very misleading.
The propaganda stated above went on and still goes on. This lead to Brandon’s crime bill and the idea of “super predators”. With that they also over-police the communities which leads to more encounters which means a higher likelihood of arrests and violent encounters.

And note that arrest doesn’t mean guilty.
Nearly all FBI crime stats are per convictions not arrests.

How is the 13/50% stuff very misleading? It's very easy to call out a statistical claim as false it's another to make a cogent argument as to why or how.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 02:30 PM
 
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Everybody who can observe knows that more diversity means more crime. My co-worker used to live in Phoenix and talks about how the slums have spread westward over time. Blue policies tend to do this. They drive crime increases and real estate shortages and make everything "not affordable" for the working class.

Their socialist utopian fantasies fail miserably when put to real life testing. A lot of it has to do with the cost of living in these areas. The poor get caught in a cycle they then can't escape. Drugs become more profitable and attractive. It becomes a vicious cycle. However, the answer is not more free stuff. The answer is skills building and teaching self sustainability and independence, the opposite of what democrats want, because people who can sustain themselves tend to not vote democrat.

Their politicians enable the crime they promise to want to fix by making people entitled and dependent.
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