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Old 08-13-2022, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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The 8 Safest Big Cities in the US Right Now

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1 Virginia Beach VA - 61% white, 18% black, 6% Hispanic, 7% Asian

2 Honolulu HI - 19% white, 2% black, 4% Hispanic, 56% Asian, 7% native Hawaiian

3 San Diego CA - 43% white, 6% black, 30% Hispanic, 17% Asian

4 El Paso TX - 12% white, 3% black, 82% Hispanic, 1% Asian

5 San Jose CA - 25% white, 3% black, 31% Hispanic, 38% Asian

6 Austin TX - 49% white, 7% black, 33% Hispanic, 8% Asian

7 Mesa AZ - 61% white, 5% black, 26% Hispanic, 2% Asian

8 Tampa FL - 43% white, 21% black, 28% Hispanic, 5% Asian


5 of 8 safest big cities have non-Hispanic white majorities.

2 have Asian majorities.

1 has Hispanic majority.

0 of 8 are majority black, the highest being the last city on the list with 21% black minority, but the safest Virginia City, has almost the same size black minority. The rest of the cities have very small black population.

Pretty clear trend for a small sample set that white/Asian majority cities are safest, but then you look at the 20 most dangerous cities and 6 of them had white majorities, so not so simple.

 
Old 08-13-2022, 11:44 PM
 
Location: USA
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10 of 20 cities have a heavy black majority.

6 cities have a heavy non-Hispanic white majority.

2 cities have a heavy Hispanic majority.

0 cities have a heavy Asian majority.

2 cities have majorities where black and non-Hispanic whites are about equal.

All crime data from City-Data.

So LS Juan's assertion appears to be false "The more black a city is the more murders it has" but there is a definite correlation with high black populations and murder rates. There might be a strong correlation with Asian majorities or pluralities having low murder rates, but I didn't actually look for that.

There could be a correlation with large Hispanic majorities and high murder rates but it is impossible to tell from this list. You have 2 cities with very large Hispanic majorities and then 18 cities with small Hispanic minorities. So, not enough data to tell.

I would have to repeat this entire thing for the least deadly major cities and look at the corresponding demographics, which I am happy to do if somebody will just send me a check for doing the work, thanks.

If anybody wants to do the remaining 45 cities on the list, the results could shed more light on the overall correlation.
False?

"The more black a city is the more murders it has"

Then you say there is a "definite correlation"? Sounds like one in the same.

"but there is a definite correlation with high black populations and murder rates"
 
Old 08-13-2022, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Good grief! What a worthless good for nothing thread! Whoever wants to move to Lincoln, Nebraska, raise your hand. Nobody? I thought so.
 
Old 08-13-2022, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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False?

"The more black a city is the more murders it has"

Then you say there is a "definite correlation"? Sounds like one in the same.

"but there is a definite correlation with high black populations and murder rates"
The Mythbusters would have said your assertion was "BUSTED".

The correlation of more blacks = more murders was true half the time, 10 of 20 cities. That is why I said your assertion was false.

You left no wiggle room. You didn't say, cities with high black populations tend to be more dangerous/have more murders. It would be true had you said that. You declared "The more black a city is the more murders it has". For the 20 cities I analyzed, that was not true. For 10 of the 20 cities that was was not true. So it is not true that simply more blacks = more murders. Just look at my list.

So it is generally true that cities with large black majorities tend to be dangerous with high murder rates, but it is not absolute. Not by a long shot.

Again, I would have to look at all 65 cities for a more accurate picture. If the remaining 45 cities were all black majority, then your statement would at least be closer to being true. Maybe you can go ahead and analyze them and see.

I get your point. Mainly black cities are often dangerous. Safe cities often have low black populations. Cities with Asian majorities are often safe. I get your point, but it is not absolute.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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It would be interesting to include population numbers and population densities of these cities.
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Go for it.
Miami gardens is 19 Sq, and 111,000 people, it would probably top the list. Maybe Philly next.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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The Mythbusters would have said your assertion was "BUSTED".

The correlation of more blacks = more murders was true half the time, 10 of 20 cities. That is why I said your assertion was false.

You left no wiggle room. You didn't say, cities with high black populations tend to be more dangerous/have more murders. It would be true had you said that..
It would still be false, because some of the blackest cities in this country have low crime rates.

but none of this really matter because cities dont have walls, and cities like Detroit completely surround smaller cities or have suburbs that border them.

most dangerous counties would actually be a more accurate list, although still flawed.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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Everybody who can observe knows that more diversity means more crime. My co-worker used to live in Phoenix and talks about how the slums have spread westward over time. Blue policies tend to do this. They drive crime increases and real estate shortages and make everything "not affordable" for the working class.

Their socialist utopian fantasies fail miserably when put to real life testing. A lot of it has to do with the cost of living in these areas. The poor get caught in a cycle they then can't escape. Drugs become more profitable and attractive. It becomes a vicious cycle. However, the answer is not more free stuff. The answer is skills building and teaching self sustainability and independence, the opposite of what democrats want, because people who can sustain themselves tend to not vote democrat.

Their politicians enable the crime they promise to want to fix by making people entitled and dependent.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 08:44 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Igor Blevin View Post
10 of 20 cities have a heavy black majority.

6 cities have a heavy non-Hispanic white majority.

2 cities have a heavy Hispanic majority.

0 cities have a heavy Asian majority.

2 cities have majorities where black and non-Hispanic whites are about equal.

All crime data from City-Data.

So LS Juan's assertion appears to be false "The more black a city is the more murders it has" but there is a definite correlation with high black populations and murder rates. There might be a strong correlation with Asian majorities or pluralities having low murder rates, but I didn't actually look for that.

There could be a correlation with large Hispanic majorities and high murder rates but it is impossible to tell from this list. You have 2 cities with very large Hispanic majorities and then 18 cities with small Hispanic minorities. So, not enough data to tell.

I would have to repeat this entire thing for the least deadly major cities and look at the corresponding demographics, which I am happy to do if somebody will just send me a check for doing the work, thanks.

If anybody wants to do the remaining 45 cities on the list, the results could shed more light on the overall correlation.
Crime is what happens when your drift away from homogenous, high-trust societies. Your Baltimore Birmingham Detroit might be homogenous (majority black), but are 'low-trust' societies.

You'd have to look at those (((Qui?))) who cater influence to local leadership allowing crime and criminals to creep in, fester and ultimately destroy what were once thriving communities.

Everyone wants money, safety, power and things. Historically, nearly all worked to achieve that (tbf some plundered) but if State and local policy has managed a large portion of a population into a whirlpool of despair where they can't work their way up and out legitimately, their only means to a desired end state is to take by force and violence.

I'll bet all 20 on the list (and the next 20) are a result of divisive democrat leadership and their handlers. It will take generations of education, training and stability to unravel and normalize both the afflicted and the damages. Maybe that's what they want (in order to skim off the solution funds) but don't we all think these problems are well passed the tipping point?

How exactly that could be done is possibly better suited to a different thread, but it starts with unseating those who made the policies that permitted the mess they're in.
 
Old 08-14-2022, 09:29 AM
 
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Good grief! What a worthless good for nothing thread! Whoever wants to move to Lincoln, Nebraska, raise your hand. Nobody? I thought so.
Lol, an Okie layin wood to Lincoln. Imagine that
 
Old 08-14-2022, 09:54 AM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Igor Blevin View Post
The Mythbusters would have said your assertion was "BUSTED".

The correlation of more blacks = more murders was true half the time, 10 of 20 cities. That is why I said your assertion was false.

You left no wiggle room. You didn't say, cities with high black populations tend to be more dangerous/have more murders. It would be true had you said that. You declared "The more black a city is the more murders it has". For the 20 cities I analyzed, that was not true. For 10 of the 20 cities that was was not true. So it is not true that simply more blacks = more murders. Just look at my list.

So it is generally true that cities with large black majorities tend to be dangerous with high murder rates, but it is not absolute. Not by a long shot.

Again, I would have to look at all 65 cities for a more accurate picture. If the remaining 45 cities were all black majority, then your statement would at least be closer to being true. Maybe you can go ahead and analyze them and see.

I get your point. Mainly black cities are often dangerous. Safe cities often have low black populations. Cities with Asian majorities are often safe. I get your point, but it is not absolute.
However you put it, these mostly Democrat cities handled the last years so badly, they made things worse, with the push for "defunding the police" and hiring Soros funded DAs like George Gascon, Kim Foxx, Boudin, and dozens of others who don't prosecute violent Felons, who return to the streets again.
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