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A federal judge ordered an injunction today to stop enforcement of Arizona's recently passed law making it a crime to video police within 8 feet. The state and county agencies that were sued by the media to stop enforcement indicated that they will NOT try to defend the law. That includes the state attorney general. Looks like it is dead.
If not for the imbeciles hoping to capture the latest and greatest TikTok video, this would not be a problem.
It's one thing to document from a distance, but some of these idiots get within arm's-length of the cops, which is never a good idea when they are making an arrest, because now they have to worry about getting sucker punched by a dirt bag posing as a "journalist."
8 feet is not a huge distance. You should probably stay 8 feet away away from an arrest, anyway.
Yeah, probably. That's a separate consideration from whether or not it ought to be a crime to merely video record. I suspect there's already statutes on the books clearly defining what would constitute impeding or obstruction, however, that would likely obviate the need for this new would-be law. If not, there should be. For example, if you're recording and insert yourself into a situation in such a way so as to unreasonably disrupt and/or prevent (whether intentionally or not) an officer in the course of executing their official duties from doing so, then I'm happy to side with law enforcement in most circumstances. Recording in and of itself of course doesn't do that, though. It's a tough line to draw, and the individual recording should exercise sufficient care to not create or exacerbate a dangerous situation. On the other hand, LEOs who simply don't like being recorded should find another line of work.
TLDR; Cops shouldn't behave like tyrants, and civilians shouldn't behave like professional agitators simply on the basis that doing so may often be technically legal.
I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.
And I’ll be right there videoing the whole mess if I think something fishy is going down.
The ability to stream or record abusive police practices has been a game changer.
It ups everyone’s game.
I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.
And I’ll be right there videoing the whole mess if I think something fishy is going down.
The ability to stream or record abusive police practices has been a game changer.
It ups everyone’s game.
Much closer that 8 feet you might get hurt by the criminal.
I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.
And I’ll be right there videoing the whole mess if I think something fishy is going down.
The ability to stream or record abusive police practices has been a game changer.
It ups everyone’s game.
Exactly. The law was made to allow cops to just claim that anyone was too close and arrest them. Then destroy the phone that the footage was on, or just delete it. It was made to abuse and discourage catching egregious behavior.
8 feet is not a huge distance. You should probably stay 8 feet away away from an arrest, anyway.
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Originally Posted by mattja
If not for the imbeciles hoping to capture the latest and greatest TikTok video, this would not be a problem.
It's one thing to document from a distance, but some of these idiots get within arm's-length of the cops, which is never a good idea when they are making an arrest, because now they have to worry about getting sucker punched by a dirt bag posing as a "journalist."
You guys do not get it? A cop who doesn't want to be recorded just has to walk within 8 feet of the citizen doing so and boom! - instant arrest, footage confiscated, and we're sorry he fell down the steps in prison.
If not for the imbeciles hoping to capture the latest and greatest TikTok video, this would not be a problem.
It's one thing to document from a distance, but some of these idiots get within arm's-length of the cops, which is never a good idea when they are making an arrest, because now they have to worry about getting sucker punched by a dirt bag posing as a "journalist."
An officer is making an arrest they can't have the public moving in too close. They've got to stand back.
In any event the law regarding filming was tossed and unlikely to return
Last edited by john3232; 09-09-2022 at 08:45 PM..
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