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Old 06-01-2022, 07:28 AM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...d-species-act/

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A three-judge California state appellate court ruled on Tuesday that bees are in fact “fish” protected under the state’s Endangered Species Act.

In 2019, the California Fish and Game Commission motioned to protect four different bumblebee species facing potential extinction, prompting various agricultural businesses (almond growers, citrus farmers, cotton ginners, etc.) to file suit. The growers argued that the California Endangered Species Act (CESA) did not allow for the designation of insects as endangered due to the fact they were not listed in the categories of wildlife when the law was first enacted.
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The Commission countered, saying that the definition of fish can and should encapsulate bees and other similarly situated invertebrates because, in part, it already does in practice. At least one species of shrimp, snail and crayfish are listed under the CESA. The listing of the Trinity bristle snail is particularly instructive, the Commission argued.

That’s because the snail, the commissioners note, does not even live in the water and was categorized as “threatened” in 1980. The way the snail got on the list was by being classified as a “fish.” Since the bristle snail is a terrestrial species, the Commission argues, “fish” cannot be limited to animals that inhabit a marine environment.
We really are living in clown world!
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Old 06-01-2022, 07:29 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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5c1EnCe!!
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Old 06-01-2022, 07:31 AM
 
Location: A Beautiful DEEP RED State
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Boys are girls.

Girls are cookware.

Bees are fish.

This is a Democrat's world.
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Old 06-01-2022, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Sounds like legislating from the bench. The bees should probably be protected under the act, but the act should be amended to include them.
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Old 06-01-2022, 07:32 AM
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This could be a full time job, translating Breitbart articles into reality.

The Fish and GAME Commission is now considering protecting vital insects that are necessary to our agriculture and are endangered.

For those who don't know, bees are essential to our agriculture. If we lose bees, we're in a world of hurt as far as growing food crops. We will starve. Forget this economy, if we wipe out bees, we will literally starve.
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Old 06-01-2022, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I can understand bee protection because these bees pollinate the flowers of our fruits and vegetables, but calling them fish is just weird.
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Old 06-01-2022, 07:33 AM
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Sounds like legislating from the bench. The bees should probably be protected under the act, but the act should be amended to include them.
That appears to be what they're doing.

Anyone who actively works to stand in the way of protecting bees, please spit out your food and step away from the table.

Breitbart.
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Old 06-01-2022, 07:34 AM
 
Location: The Piedmont of North Carolina
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That appears to be what they're doing.

Anyone who actively works to stand in the way of protecting bees, please spit out your food and step away from the table.

Breitbart.
Judicial branches are not supposed to be legislating. Sounds like a poorly written law. Nobody is against protecting bees, but, they have still classified bees as "fish", which is not biologically correct... and the purpose of discussion in this thread.
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Old 06-01-2022, 07:40 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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Anyone else see the danger in arbitrarily changing the definitions of words to help make laws suit the government's purposes? Even if the intentions are good it sets a bad precedent.
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Old 06-01-2022, 07:40 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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This could be a full time job, translating Breitbart articles into reality.

The Fish and GAME Commission is now considering protecting vital insects that are necessary to our agriculture and are endangered.

For those who don't know, bees are essential to our agriculture. If we lose bees, we're in a world of hurt as far as growing food crops. We will starve. Forget this economy, if we wipe out bees, we will literally starve.
I agree 100% bees need to be protected, this should have been done well over a decade ago when it became clear there was a huge problem on the horizon. But that means legislators need to write a new law or amend the old one, not that judges omnisciently declare bees are no longer considered insects.
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