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Old 12-09-2022, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Portland OR
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I firmly believe we are living in the best of times for human beings in the western world.


When the major issues of the day are (for most part):
1 "hate speech,"

2. Social Justice - whatever that means.

3. Is planet going to get too hot or cold or wet or dry or whatever?



Life must be pretty damn good.
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Old 12-09-2022, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Being ridiculed for using the incorrect pronoun...
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Old 12-09-2022, 01:56 PM
 
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I firmly believe we are living in the best of times for human beings in the western world.


When the major issues of the day are (for most part):


3. Is planet going to get too hot or cold or wet or dry or whatever?

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Mocking climate change? It's going to kill the entire planet!


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Old 12-09-2022, 01:56 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Gays being allowed to marry. It's the end of days,
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Old 12-09-2022, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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You have pointed out the luxury of decadence when survival, and later substistence, give way to bounty.

Hungry people working to subsist don't have the luxury of not eating meat if it is plentiful.

A society can evolve to a dangerous level of decadance, and we have been there far a long time, now rolling over into degeneracy and depravity.

It is a natural progression and we are right on time. Ancient Rome had their bread and circuses.

Human nature never changes and we repeat the same mistakes. The Founding Fathers did everythign they could do to try to help us prevent doing so, from warning about big government to living in cities. "If you can keep it".
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Old 12-09-2022, 02:18 PM
 
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I firmly believe we are living in the best of times for human beings in the western world.
Of course we are.

We have less natural disaster deaths.
Less warfare deaths.
Our standard of living is at the all time high as of today.
Everybody has access to all information, for free for the most part.
Free bachelor degrees, if you take the time to find it.
We have so much food, that we're all fat.
A Warm Earth. (none of this was possible during a Cold Earth, fact.)

We're so well off, that there are states that pay more to not work, than work a minimum wage job.
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Old 12-09-2022, 02:57 PM
 
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liberalism is the product of an affluent society

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You have pointed out the luxury of decadence when survival, and later substistence, give way to bounty.

Hungry people working to subsist don't have the luxury of not eating meat if it is plentiful.

A society can evolve to a dangerous level of decadance, and we have been there far a long time, now rolling over into degeneracy and depravity.

It is a natural progression and we are right on time. Ancient Rome had their bread and circuses.

Human nature never changes and we repeat the same mistakes. The Founding Fathers did everythign they could do to try to help us prevent doing so, from warning about big government to living in cities. "If you can keep it".
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Old 12-09-2022, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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liberalism is the product of an affluent society
Yes. So is corruption and avarice among the rich and powerful. Government has never been more corrupt. Corporations have never been as brazenly greedy, squeezing every last drop of money out of consumers while cutting workers to the quick.

It is not a one size fits all. It tears apart the fabric of society on many levels.
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Old 12-09-2022, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Nope. 1986 was the peak of Western civilization. It was hard picking this year as the Berlin Wall wouldn't fall for another three years, but I think it's correct. The downhill slide started about then.
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Old 12-09-2022, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I agree. We have so many conveniences and luxuries in this country that you don't even have to be rich to get. I couldn't imagine living in the early 1900s... life must have sucked for most people. I can't imagine living in a third-world country today. Many of us in the U.S. are a bunch of spoiled brats who complain about any minor inconvenience. We truly have it so good, but we don't appreciate it.
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