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Old 09-27-2022, 01:35 AM
 
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In relation to the Ukraine war, I've heard comments in media world-wide: "How can there be war in the 21st century? We don't solve things like that anymore". I don't get why they aren't remembering recent wars and ongoing wars in the 21st century such as Iraq and Afghanistan, Syria, Darfur, or Yemen. God knows there are multo more where those came from.


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Old 09-27-2022, 03:05 AM
 
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Well, the second U.S./Iraq war was based on the previous BC administration's cruise-missile attack on Iraq whereby they were not satisfied with Iraq's cooperation with weapons inspections.

Then this second U.S./Iraq war, by the GWB administration, sent millions of non-Kurdish Sunni refugees to Syria. The middle-class Sunni went to neighborhoods East of Damascus while the working-class Sunni went to towns along the Euphrates River. Of course, an Iraq Shiite government was established in Iraq.

Next, the Sunni East of Damascus begin a civil protest of the Syrian Shiite government. Then the BO administration began supplying these Sunni rebels with weapons in an attempt to overthrow the Syrian government. Of course, an attempt to overthrow the Syrian government was an affront to Russia.

Continuing, the Sunni based on the Euphrates River in Syria were then able to overthrow the northern half of Iraq but West of the Tigris River and not including Baghdad. Now the Sunni holding the Euphrates River and overthrowing half of Iraq was not part of the BO administration plan. Of course the Iraq Shiite government planned counter attacks and regained control of Iraq.

And more, Turkey needed to defend its border from the Sunni on the Euphrates but Turkey also refused to accept any organization of the Kurds along the Turkey border. The DT administration had limited involvement with the Syrian civil war but supported Kurdish forces against the Sunni on the Euphrates.

Now note from a previous point that Russia was mad at the BO administration. But Russia simply had a Ukraine administration give up EU application at the time of the Olympics. Then several million people in Ukraine hit the streets in protest, the Ukraine government was overthrown, and a new constitution was written. The Russian response was then the annexation of Crimea since they had lost a favorable government in Ukraine. Now during the time leading up to the protests in Ukraine there were non-government-organizations operating in Ukraine.

Then Russia gave further support to Russian speaking areas of Ukraine which were then attacked by Ukrainian militias. The Minsk Agreement called for an end to the attacks but Russia says that Ukraine didn't actually stop the attacks. The DT administration basically just watched the situation in Ukraine but had diplomacy with both Russia and Ukraine.

Finally, Russia, facing a confrontational diplomacy with the JB administration, began an actual invasion of Ukraine. At first they blamed the expansion of NATO for the problem but later lifted the siege of Kyiv and held closer to the concerns of the Minsk Agreement.

Now look back at Iraq and Syria. The Shiite government in Syria held. The Shiite government in Iraq held. And the Shiite government in Iran assists both countries
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Old 09-27-2022, 04:26 AM
 
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Ya, that came back to haunt Bush when he accidentally called himself out about violating another nation’s sovereignty lol
He needs to be put on trial next to Putin.
I hated both bush 1 and 2. Both were about the worst we had with 3 failed wars and record oil prices in 91 and 2008 nate.
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Old 09-27-2022, 04:52 AM
 
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I hated both bush 1 and 2. Both were about the worst we had with 3 failed wars and record oil prices in 91 and 2008 nate.
How are your feelings about Biden?
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Old 09-27-2022, 05:27 AM
 
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How are your feelings about Biden?
He is one dumb F. I hated Obama the worst and loved Bill.
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Old 09-27-2022, 07:15 AM
 
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We've been at war with one country or another since LBJ and Vietnam with a few breaks in-between.
The Dems didn't like that Trump didn't rattle the saber and invade countries on his watch.
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Old 09-27-2022, 07:31 AM
 
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We've been at war with one country or another since LBJ and Vietnam with a few breaks in-between.
The Dems didn't like that Trump didn't rattle the saber and invade countries on his watch.
And never won one war.
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Old 09-27-2022, 07:34 AM
 
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We've been at war with one country or another since LBJ and Vietnam with a few breaks in-between.
The Dems didn't like that Trump didn't rattle the saber and invade countries on his watch.



It is amazing that the Dems told us that Trump with his lack of tac and tough talk was going to lead us in to World War 3 where the planet would be nuked and he and his buddy Putin would be left to sift through the ashes to split the proceeds.



Imagine they told us Trump was so divisive but he actually did more to promote peace than any President in recent memory.

China wasn't happy with Trump bringing attention to the trade imbalance but at least he didn't threaten China and backed them in to a corner by telling them that the USA would defend Taiwan.

Kim Jong Un was appeased when Trump stepped over the Border. That was an incredible moment in History and Kim stopped firing his missiles. He is shooting them again now.



Trump took out terrorists in the ME with precision strikes. Strikes that didn't murder innocent civilians delivering water to children as Biden's strike did as Afghanistan crumbled.



AND Putin didn't invade Ukraine until the weak Biden took over. Imagine a Land War being waged in Europe again. How crazy is that?



Why is that war still going on? Why can't the UN get in there and stop it? Biden doesn't seem to care that Putin threatened the use of Nukes but where are the negotiators? Trump would be negotiating instead of sending Billions in aid and the eventual blank check courtesy of the tax payers to rebuild the country...
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Old 09-27-2022, 07:40 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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And never won one war.
I don't think the intent was ever to "win".
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Old 09-27-2022, 07:44 AM
 
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12 billion more for the bad actor and his friends.


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