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Old 10-02-2022, 02:26 PM
 
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Almost like if it hadn’t been ObamaCare it was going to be RomneyCare and it would look very similar and they’ve just been tilting at windmills this whole time?
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Old 10-02-2022, 06:01 PM
 
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Almost like if it hadn’t been ObamaCare it was going to be RomneyCare and it would look very similar and they’ve just been tilting at windmills this whole time?
Romney's proposal for his health care program was partly what sunk his election efforts.

The debate took on aspects of the ridiculous, as debates with Democrats frequently do, when the leftist fanatics said things that boiled down to "If you don't like our big-government schemes for running the nation's health care, let's see if YOUR big-government schemes for running the nation's health care are bigger and better than ours!"

The Republicans, flummoxed as usual by Democrats' challenge "Can you be more big-govt liberal than we are?", could not come up with an answer to satisfy the Dems (as though the Dems had any intention of accepting ANY answer from Republicans).

I never heard ANY Republican give the correct answer, which is "Assigning big govt to run health care is fundamentally wrong, and will result in skyrocketing costs, reduced health care for a great many Americans, and general chaos as they find themselves locked into those skyrocketing costs and diminishing returns, unable to escape the program once their preferred programs are destroyed by government."
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Old 10-02-2022, 06:53 PM
 
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Almost like if it hadn’t been ObamaCare it was going to be RomneyCare and it would look very similar and they’ve just been tilting at windmills this whole time?
Would it have had the same lies that spilled from Obama's mouth if it was created by Romney? Romney lies like a Dem so it wouldn't surprise me
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Old 10-02-2022, 06:58 PM
 
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Yet even though the republicans are looking at reality and trying to deal with a situation in a responsible manner, the MSM as per their standard tries to spin this turn this into a negative against the republicans.
The article linked by the OP just gives the facts - Republicans are no longer trying to repeal Obamacare. John Cornyn said it looks like its here to stay. I don't see the article as being pro or anti-republican.
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Old 10-02-2022, 07:04 PM
 
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The Pubs have nothing. Nothing “beautiful,” “terrific” or “unbelievable.”
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Old 10-02-2022, 07:35 PM
 
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Dems also have nothing. Nothing that actually produces the promised outcomes.
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Old 10-02-2022, 07:38 PM
 
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Dems also have nothing. Nothing that actually produces the promised outcomes.
The Dems have what we've got. A mish mash of Medicaid, Medicare and Obamacare. The major problem with the last is that it is too costly for the relatively young and healthy.
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Old 10-02-2022, 07:41 PM
 
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The Dems have what we've got. A mish mash of Medicaid, Medicare and Obamacare. The major problem with the last is that it is too costly for the relatively young and healthy.
Hence "the dems have nothing that delivers the promised outcomes".

What idiot thought treating a young, healthy and physically fit 20 year old with no pre-existing conditions the same as a 75 year old obese diabetic with high blood pressure, fatty liver and heart disease would lower health insurance premiums? Clearly none of Obama's advisors had any experience with actuarial science or even probability and statistics.

Now we have everyone paying equally ludicrous premiums instead of some people paying ludicrous premiums.
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Old 10-02-2022, 07:50 PM
 
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Republicans aren't going to talk about Obamacare repeal right now.

Biden is still President for two years after the mid-terms and can veto, so it is pointless.

I don't believe that the subject is abandoned altogether. Come late 2023 when there are debates again, repealing ACA will be back at least in talk.

Even on the Democratic side, you'll have Medicare for All being proposed again by candidates on the left.
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Old 10-02-2022, 07:53 PM
 
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Good. It's worked well for me, and my costs are manageable. Ironically, I'll likely end up paying more for Medicare benefits when the time comes.
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