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Would a criminal be able to determine all this in advance? I doubt it. I can think of one house in my area where I'm sure there are no guns and it is known to be such. It has never been burglarized -- nuns live there!
The fallacy here is that guns are the be all and end all of self-defense. Sometimes dogs can work wonders -- they are a great deterrent to keep folks out of your house.
As a hunter I can imagine just what it means to shoot a human being inside your home. You want to avoid that.
"The fallacy here is that guns are the be all and end all of self-defense."
I think YOU are the ONLY one claiming that!
" Sometimes dogs"
You do know dogs can be shot. If a silencer is used you would never hear the shot.
"As a hunter I can imagine just what it means to shoot a human being inside your home."
After doing 2 tours in 'Nam, I wouldn't hesitate a second and with no bad afterthoughts!
And I was a hunter also.
Don't understand what being a hunter has to do with it.
How do you think you would fell if bad guys with guns broke into your home and did bad things to your wife and kids with you watching and you were useless to stop them?
11 year old little GIRLS have shot and killed armed bad guys attempting to break into their homes.
That's why some gun lock laws make no sense. You can't remove a lock in an emergency.
More people shoot friend or relatives (or the upstairs tenant) than defend themselves from lawbreakers with guns. The gun lobby oversells the home protection issue.
In NC this week, an upstairs tenant was killed by a gun fired in a downstairs domestic dispute. In Chicago two years ago, a cop shot an on-looker in the head who was peeping out a door to see the hubbub and the bullet missed the intended target. I have a friend in VA who found a round in her clothes hamper after the person in the next townhouse was cleaning his pistol!
In the McDonald case SCOTUS never seemed to consider that he could have bought a coach gun instead of a pistol and such gun would not kill someone across the street.
Surely you have the statistics to back up this claim?
You do know dogs can be shot. If a silencer is used you would never hear the shot.
You'd probably hear the dog before the shot.
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Don't understand what being a hunter has to do with it.
I know what mess a large, shot organism makes. It ain't pretty.
You can't quantify how many break-ins were averted because of dogs, instead of humans starting a gun fight around their loved ones. You can't quantify how many homes were avoided by burglars due to the possibility of a home owner having a gun.
Guns are last ditch home protection. Not the be all and end all, not the best method, not the safest method, not the most effective method, not the most used method.
There has been very little in the way of looting after hurricane Ian because the message was loud and clear from the get go that home owners in Florida have the right to protect themselves and their property. Looters can and will be shot.
There was also little in the way of so called "peaceful protesters" burning down cities and looting businesses in Florida because business owners are allowed to protect their property. The trouble that did happen, occurred in more liberal pockets where local leaders were wishy washy about enforcing laws.
There has been very little in the way of looting after hurricane Ian because the message was loud and clear from the get go that home owners in Florida have the right to protect themselves and their property. Looters can and will be shot.
There was also little in the way of so called "peaceful protesters" burning down cities and looting businesses in Florida because business owners are allowed to protect their property. The trouble that did happen, occurred in more liberal pockets where local leaders were wishy washy about enforcing laws.
Beware the 'post hoc' fallacy in coming to conclusions. Every precursor is not a cause.
Beware the 'post hoc' fallacy in coming to conclusions. Every precursor is not a cause.
Looters are low lifes but they aren't complete idiots. They are going to target easy pickings which is why looting is such a HUGE problem in places like San Francisco.
Businesses are pulling out of liberal cities because things have gotten so bad in those areas.
Looters are low lifes but they aren't complete idiots. They are going to target easy pickings which is why looting is such a HUGE problem in places like San Francisco.
You mean after the quake in 1906? They brought in the National Guard.
Looters were a problem in KS after a tornado about six years ago. Lotsa guns in Kansas.
You mean after the quake in 1906? They brought in the National Guard.
Looters were a problem in KS after a tornado about six years ago. Lotsa guns in Kansas.
There have always been aholes in San Francisco apparently.
Not sure what happened in Kansas. It's possible that they were completely caught off guard by low life opportunists seeking to enrich themselves at the expense of the tornado victims.
DeSantis was smart to get ahead of that nonsense immediately and in no uncertain terms.
I know what mess a large, shot organism makes. It ain't pretty.
You can't quantify how many break-ins were averted because of dogs, instead of humans starting a gun fight around their loved ones. You can't quantify how many homes were avoided by burglars due to the possibility of a home owner having a gun.
Guns are last ditch home protection. Not the be all and end all, not the best method, not the safest method, not the most effective method, not the most used method.
method, not the most effective method, not the most used method.[/quote]
"You can't quantify how many break-ins were averted because of dogs....."
YOU are the 1 making the case for dogs, so, it is up to YOU to provide the data!
"instead of humans starting a gun fight around their loved ones"
So now defending your home an loved ones is "starting a gun fight"!
Hey keep you guns locked up, and pay the consequences!
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