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Old 10-23-2022, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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God forbid that the entire state of New York starts down the road of becoming what NYC was while Giuliani was mayor.
Do you mean the low crime, safe & clean streets, & timely trash pick-up that Rudy was reposnsible for? New Yorkers would love to have those qualities statewide.
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Old 10-23-2022, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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As a former NYer, I am very hopeful, but I just don't see it happening. The cheating is rampant. No ID needed, polling stations not have R ballots, anyone (even those without a SS# or DL) are allowed to register to vote, the list goes on and on. Not looking for a debate, just stating facts. I don't see how the dems could ever lose control there.

I will eat crow if it happens.
Dems cross party lines all the time, & many New Yorkers would love to have back the days of Guiliani when you could go into the city and feel safe, & see clean streets. I hear what you are saying about the stacked deck and corruption, but I still think it could happen. People where I'm from in Brooklyn, have had it with all the crime.
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Old 10-23-2022, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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New York STATE is 75% red as it is...the only thing that makes it blue is New York CITY
Correct, and NYC is a cesspool now, & it was closed down tight during covid, so city dwellers can hardly remember the good 'ole days of Guiliani. I think NYC voters will cross party lines, and cancel Horchul.
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Old 10-23-2022, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I don’t know if polls are accurate or not, but it does seem hard to believe the Dems will lose NY.

But if they do, the main reason will be crime.

Democrats own the violence and lawlessness, because they have done nothing except demonize the police, silently applaud the unrest in the streets, and let criminals back on the street to commit more crimes.
Could be high taxes too. People I meet moving here to Florida from NY say it's the taxes for them. And they are worried about all the threats from democrat leaders to ban natural gas and oil and this is what is used to keep many homes warm in the winter, so they are also moving to FL to escape that financial burden.
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Old 10-23-2022, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Florida
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New York STATE is 75% red as it is...the only thing that makes it blue is New York CITY
This is why we need changes to state voting so it reflects the republic that we have on a national level. Instead of popular vote, it needs to be who won the most counties.
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Old 10-23-2022, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Yes, because "Red" is not an ideology. Republicans stand for nothing. They'll continue to shift their policies to win elections. Eventually they'll become like the conservative party in Britain, where Liz Truss bragged about having no White British men in her cabinet.

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/e...-top-positions
"Standing for nothing" could be seen as a strength when Dem's stand for:

-open borders overpopulating NY schools w/ Spanish speaking illiterate students, & causing fentanyl deaths

-failed public schools despite high paid teachers unions who see parents as domestic terrorists

-rampant homelessness...w/ New York taxpayers paying for 4-star hotel rooms for insane drug addicts

-soft on crime, defund police, & letting criminals out on low or no bail to strike again

-Billions in debt, and a pension ponzi scheme soon to implode

-Stuffing C-19 infected patients into nursing homes killing thousands, then covering it up


Yeah, a Republican could just run on nothing, & be seen as being a far superior choice.
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Old 10-24-2022, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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1) open borders overpopulating NY schools w/ Spanish speaking illiterate students, & causing fentanyl deaths
2) failed public schools despite high paid teachers unions who see parents as domestic terrorists
3) rampant homelessness...w/ New York taxpayers paying for 4-star hotel rooms for insane drug addicts
4) soft on crime, defund police, & letting criminals out on low or no bail to strike again
5) Billions in debt, and a pension ponzi scheme soon to implode
6) Stuffing C-19 infected patients into nursing homes killing thousands, then covering it up.
1) Republicans don't actually want to do anything about immigration. Ronald Reagan was the worst offender. Bush was a "compassionate conservative". Illegal-immigration was higher under Trump than Obama. Capitalists want cheap labor, and wages have been going up too fast for their liking. Also, we need a larger population to compete with China, especially since our native-born fertility rate is far below replacement.

2) Government schools aren't failing. They're doing exactly what they're designed to do.

3) What are Republicans going to do about homelessness other than making it illegal?

4) Crime can definitely be reduced by locking more people in prison, but is that the solution?

5) Trump spent more money and had the biggest deficit in American History. It isn't even close.

6) Stuffing covid patients into nursing homes wasn't a democrat policy, even if it was carried out by a democrat.

You need to just let the rich people run the country and stop trying to interfere. Idiots voting doesn't solve anything.
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Old 10-24-2022, 02:06 PM
 
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New York STATE is 75% red as it is...the only thing that makes it blue is New York CITY
Where the majority live and where the funds of the state come from. That is true for many states. Tell the red counties to pay their own bills and their own infrastructure and see what happens.
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Old 10-24-2022, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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1) Republicans don't actually want to do anything about immigration. Ronald Reagan was the worst offender. Bush was a "compassionate conservative". Illegal-immigration was higher under Trump than Obama. Capitalists want cheap labor, and wages have been going up too fast for their liking. Also, we need a larger population to compete with China, especially since our native-born fertility rate is far below replacement.

2) Government schools aren't failing. They're doing exactly what they're designed to do.

3) What are Republicans going to do about homelessness other than making it illegal?

4) Crime can definitely be reduced by locking more people in prison, but is that the solution?

5) Trump spent more money and had the biggest deficit in American History. It isn't even close.

6) Stuffing covid patients into nursing homes wasn't a democrat policy, even if it was carried out by a democrat.
Republicans have been trying to reform immigration for decades... especially Reagan... its the democrusties that continue to lie

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Reagan did NOT start the amnesty thing...that was Ted Kennedy in 1965


as to 1986...

Ronald Reagan was opposed to illegal immigration and amnesty. In fact, if you do a little research you will find that stopping illegal immigration was part of the Republican National Committee’s platform back then and Ronald Reagan ran on that platform.

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In 1986 Senator Kennedy said, ‘This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.’
The 1986 Immigration Reform Act that rewarded illegal aliens with amnesty was known as the Simpson-Massoli bill of 1986. When first drafted, the bill was suppose to make it a criminal offense for aliens who were not authorized to work in the United States a federal criminal act and that it would be a federal crime for employers to hire illegal aliens.

Here's what happened, the Democrats in Congress refused to sign on this bill unless the 1.5 million illegal aliens already thought to be in the country illegally and would qualify for amnesty were rewarded amnesty. (reason being, if these illegal’s were to become U.S. citizens, guess what party they would most likely vote for ? )

So the amnesty part was added on to the bill other wise the Democrats wouldn't sign on. And to muffle the out cry, the American people were told that this amnesty was a one time thing and would never be repeated again.

Well the bill passed both houses of Congress and President Reagan signed the bill. In the inner circles of the administration, Ronald Reagan was to have said he may have made a mistake by signing the bill.
Guess what ?, it wasn't 1.5 million illegal aliens who would have qualified for amnesty. It turns out that over 3 million were rewarded with amnesty, mostly because of the fraud that took place during the amnesty process. Phony rent receipts, phony pay check stubs, liberal judges expunging criminal records of illegal aliens!!!

And after the bill became law, you had Teddy Kennedy watering down the enforcement part of the bill that had to do with enforcing and prosecuting employers who hired illegal aliens.

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Here is Ted Kennedy commenting on the 1965 immigration bill,
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“The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission.” End of Quote.
In 1994, Ted Kennedy’s Section 245(i) Amnesty gave legal residence and jobs to 578,000 illegal aliens. It was a temporary rolling amnesty primarily for extended family members of immigrants who instead of waiting in line, come on to the country illegally.

In 1997, Ted Kennedy’s extension of the Section 245(i) rolling amnesty was followed by an increasing flow of illegal immigration.

In 1997, Ted Kennedy also won an amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America. Illegal immigration sped up some more.

In 1998, TedKennedy won an amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti.

In 2000, Ted Kennedy got the so-called Late Amnesty, legalizing another 400,000 illegal aliens who claimed that they missed out on Kennedy’s 1986 amnesty.

In 2000, Ted Kennedy also won the LIFE Act Amnesty for an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. It was another reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty...an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. Illegal immigration accelerated.





again what can you count on... liberals will lie no matter what

liberals(fascists) will always lie


you want to bash Reagan...go for it...like any-other POTUS there are things to complain about... but let's not change facts... Reagan did not START amnesty...and he ran against amnesty and illegal immigration

2 state schools (oublic) are failing...at every mark

3. the homeless (85% have mental illness)... is due to the liberals of the late 70's and early 80's closing all the mental institutions

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it happened while the President was Carter


wasnt reagan..this started under CARTER....and was the liberals in congress that states institutions was ""in-humane""


Early 1980's: the liberal congress directed the Social Security Administration to pare the SSI and SSDI rolls. Social Security administrators responded by developing definitions of mental illness that diverged from those used in the past and those employed by mental health professionals. The resulting dislocations ultimately produced a public outcry that compelled the administration and Social Security to back down.
1981: The 1981 the Democrat controlled congress passed the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act which repealed the provisions of the National Mental Health Systems Act, cut federal mental health and substance abuse allocations by twenty-five percent, and converted them to block grants disbursed with few strings attached. New York State, which used block-grant monies to fund community-based programs, and other states have to cut mental health programs.

1979 in Texas and around the country, state governments got this brilliant idea to close the state hospitals for being "inhumane" in favor of opening neighborhood outpatient centers. What they really wanted to do was take that money and blow it on their pet projects. All neighborhoods said not in our backyard. So you have mental patients on the street. Which incidentally indirectly affected Reagan personally when John Hinckley shot him.

Mayor Dianne Feinstein (now a us senator) gathered religious leaders together in 1982 to discuss a shocking wave of homeless people on city streets.

The solution, they thought, was to temporarily set up cots and soup kitchens in a few church basements.

What they didn't realize then was they faced the genesis of a generational crisis brought on by complicated social factors out of their control.

At the time, Feinstein said, she thought homelessness was only a temporary problem, and the solution was to provide short-term housing. Her attention was also split with the emerging AIDS epidemic.
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its like when you hear about the so-called ""AUTISM EPEDEMIC"""...prior to 1985 most childhoold autism was classified as """juvenile schitzipherenia"""(forgive my spelling) and retarded.....the percent of kids with (using an old outdated term) retardation/mental incompacity/autism has stayed mostly level...the difference is that instead of having 3 JS, 1 AUT, 6 retards (10 kids) out of 1000....now its just 10 autism/asperger out of 1000 (1 in 100)

the same with in the 80's when the liberals have many of the institutions closed because it was 'inhumane' to lock these people up....now they are the growing population of HOMELESS (85% of homeless at mentally ill).
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The problem with the mentally ill is that there really isn't some magic drug or treatment plan that will cure them all. They might decide they don't like some side effect of the drugs they were given and stop taking them. Or they might decide they like some of the street drugs better or in addition and make themselves worse.

5. Biden had the biggest deficit in 21'...5 trillion dollar deficit
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Old 10-24-2022, 02:14 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I hope NJ follows. There’s a dark horse rising for the 2025 governor. With the new trans sex ed classes for kindergartners I’m hoping most of the current Dem legislators will be ousted by then too.
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