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Old 10-28-2022, 02:41 PM
 
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Originally Posted by PamelaIamela View Post
Isn't it odd that the incidence of homosexuality has remained remarkably stable @~5% for males and -3% for females since first measured by Kinsey shortly after WWII but the incidence of transgenders has exploded by over 4000% in the UK and now here?
And if 'transing' prevents suicide why hasn't the rate of youth suicides plummeted with the affirming model of 'care'?

Also, let's be clear about some other important differences between the two groups:
-Gay folks don't need your 'affirmation'... just your tolerance.
-Transgenders want privileges based on their private 'feelings' which they demand you affirm with speech, drugs, and surgeries.
-In fact, forget the surgeries...they don't need 'em, so now we are blessed with lesbians with penises!
-Forget biology.
-Forget reality.
-Anyone who disagrees with any part of Trans ideology is a hateful, transphobic bigot and a right wing extremist.

****** Welcome to Orwell's "1984"! ******
Asking that you be respectful of how others are living their own lives is "Orwell's 1984!"?

What? How does being respectful actually impact your life? They aren't asking you to change how you live your life. Except of course asking you to be a decent human being to others, which shouldn't we all strive to do anyway?

 
Old 10-28-2022, 02:44 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Asking that you be respectful of how others are living their own lives is "Orwell's 1984!"?

What? How does being respectful actually impact your life? They aren't asking you to change how you live your life. Except of course asking you to be a decent human being to others, which shouldn't we all strive to do anyway?
yes they are...boys in the girls locker rooms all because they "think" they are a girl ?

Yes...they are demanding to be included. Transgenders are like a third sex here and should be grouped separately from either men or women.

The respect has to go both ways.
 
Old 10-28-2022, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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I think many perhaps most gay people are born that way (nature), we've all seen the flamboyant skinny men and butchy women. But IMO a very large portion grew into it (nurture), unfortunately almost all due to sexual abuse as children
Really? What's the research showing the rates of sexual abuse for gay vs. straight? And then showing any abuse is what actually "turned" them gay?
 
Old 10-28-2022, 03:03 PM
 
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yes they are...boys in the girls locker rooms all because they "think" they are a girl ?

Yes...they are demanding to be included. Transgenders are like a third sex here and should be grouped separately from either men or women.

The respect has to go both ways.
Grouped separately like in camps?
 
Old 10-28-2022, 03:36 PM
 
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Without solely, you're talking about bisexuality, not homosexuality. And again, sexual attraction and sex acts are related, but not inexorably connected. You can have an attraction that you never act on, and vice versa.
Meaning you can act on an attraction that you never had? Why would you do that?
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Do you really think that's never happened(for a myriad of reasons)? If so, you're only fooling yourself.

As an extreme example - you get raped or molested by a man, does that make you gay? Obviously not.

Add in money, power, influence, whatever other reasons people have sex with other people they're not attracted to - it's not all that uncommon.
Correct, those are extreme examples.

What you are identifying is forced and/or coerced sex. That is no different than straight relationships which is about the only thing the two have in common.

Rape or coercion doesn't make anyone gay or straight. In normal sexual relations, why would anyone have sex with someone to whom they are not attracted.
 
Old 10-28-2022, 03:46 PM
 
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Meaning you can act on an attraction that you never had? Why would you do that?Correct, those are extreme examples.

What you are identifying is forced and/or coerced sex. That is no different than straight relationships which is about the only thing the two have in common.

Rape or coercion doesn't make anyone gay or straight. In normal sexual relations, why would anyone have sex with someone to whom they are not attracted.
Long history of “Lavender marriages” that produced children.
 
Old 10-28-2022, 03:50 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Grouped separately like in camps?
Yes grouped separately...we do that today with men and women. Just add a third category.
 
Old 10-28-2022, 05:30 PM
 
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Long history of “Lavender marriages” that produced children.
Yes, Hollywood was full of them.

However, that isn't relevant to the statement "You can also have engaged in same-sex sex and not be homosexual."
 
Old 10-28-2022, 05:39 PM
 
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Yes, Hollywood was full of them.

However, that isn't relevant to the statement "You can also have engaged in same-sex sex and not be homosexual."
Well I was replying to “why would anyone have sex with someone to whom they are not attracted.”

Also ya know experimenting horny teens.
 
Old 10-28-2022, 05:41 PM
 
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i just down care about any of them - its noncense and has no impact on my quality of life. I just like the fact its being shoved down the throats of our grandkids and that i wont tolerate any such crap in our schools.
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