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View Poll Results: Will Donald Trump announce tonight that:
He is running for President in 2024 as a Republican 66 75.00%
He is not running in 2024, and he will endorse Ron DeSantis 5 5.68%
He will form a 3rd part, and run for Pre3sident in 2024 under that 12 13.64%
None of the above 5 5.68%
Voters: 88. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-17-2022, 07:17 AM
 
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Ah, the fantasy spin of the left. Let's take a look.

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We libs hate him because he tried to destroy democracy, set a mob on the Capitol,
The first part of that is simply opinion, not backed up by anything but partisan talking points and hyperbole. Trump fought to save the nation's freedom. The second part is just one of the thousands of lies spewed daily by the left. Trump did not set a mob on anything or anyone. But, the FBI and it's operatives who infiltrated the protest did. The FBI had instigators openly encouraging protesters to enter the Capital on Jan 6th. While conservatives have been held without bail, not one FBI informant operative was held accountable, even though they are caught on video instigating the escalation from protest to riot.

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put his loyal Vice Presidents life in danger,
Nope, another lie of the left. Pence was never in danger, and neither were the crybabies like pelosi and cortez. In fact the only actual death was the murder of a conservative, unarmed, veteran woman shot by a black capital cop. If a white cop had shot an unarmed, female trespasser all the media would still be talking about it non stop today. But with the two tiered justice system of the biden administration, this murder was excused, swept under the rug and flushed down the memory hole. Of course, they still bring up dead drug dealers who died resisting arrest. Just not an unarmed female trespasser.

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tried to blackmail Ukraine,
Funny. The only one who blackmailed Ukraine was biden. He bragged on video about it. Trump was looking for honest answers, but turned to the most corrupt nation on earth for it. Fortunately for liberals, joe stole the election and now the left is pouring billions into a country that can't tell us where the money is going for fear of being epsteined.

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filled the Supreme court with right wing religious nutcases,
Trump appointed three, which didn't "fill" anything. There is a chart for you attached since you must not realize he didn't pick any more than several other Presidents. He did however pick conservative justices, which I assume is the only problem you have with them. He also didn't use racial discrimination to pick his justices, like biden did.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/n...789present.htm

The rest of your list is just opinion and not worth responding to. Trump was a better President than obama and will end up miles above biden, who is a completely corrupt idiot.
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Old 11-17-2022, 07:31 AM
 
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Which is the biggest reason libs hate him, career politicians hate him and the media dolts hate him. It is also the biggest reason he is the only chance The United states of America has to ever remain free.
There are other reasons to oppose Trump. An editorial today summed up his record pretty nicely:

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The case against Mr. Trump is straightforward. He uses demagogy to stoke racism. He lies about matters great and small. As president, he frequently placed his personal interests above the national interest. He promised to lift up ordinary Americans and instead delivered tax cuts for the wealthy that significantly increased the federal debt. He was a friend to dictators and an inconstant ally to liberal democracies. He made the country’s military position in the world demonstrably weaker by foolishly withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal, which even a senior Israeli official now concedes was a serious self-inflicted wound. And in perhaps his greatest test as president, he treated the Covid-19 pandemic as a public relations problem, downplaying the danger and resisting basic safety measures that would have saved lives.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/15/o...er_new_arm_5_1
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Old 11-17-2022, 08:19 AM
 
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If Trump is trying to extort and blackmail the Republican Party, does he have an easy target?
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Old 11-17-2022, 08:39 AM
 
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For those saying that Trump should retire and not run in 2024 I say you shouldn’t vote in 2024. Please. Stay home, get drunk and watch old movies. With all due respect, please don’t vote. Just this one time. Thank you.
Nope! We'll come out in droves to make sure Trump DOES NOT make it back into office
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Old 11-17-2022, 09:29 AM
 
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Trump will fix America…he’s been saying that for how many years now. He should stick with what he’s good at. By the way, what is he good at
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Old 11-17-2022, 09:42 AM
 
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Any military that votes for him should really reconsider their own value system. This guy called us all sorts of names and disrespected those who served. And Hillary was just as bad with her lies and disrespect too.

I ask the following all the time...is this all America's got?...some old man and Cheeto man...really! We need some new blood.

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Old 11-17-2022, 09:46 AM
 
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An editorial today summed up his record pretty nicely:
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The case against Mr. Trump is straightforward. He uses demagogy to stoke racism. He lies about matters great and small. As president, he frequently placed his personal interests above the national interest. He promised to lift up ordinary Americans and instead delivered tax cuts for the wealthy that significantly increased the federal debt. He was a friend to dictators and an inconstant ally to liberal democracies. He made the country’s military position in the world demonstrably weaker by foolishly withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal, which even a senior Israeli official now concedes was a serious self-inflicted wound. And in perhaps his greatest test as president, he treated the Covid-19 pandemic as a public relations problem, downplaying the danger and resisting basic safety measures that would have saved lives.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/15/o...er_new_arm_5_1
At first I was impressed with a sentence I thought I was reading: "Mr. Trump is straightforward."

Leaving aside the truth or falsehood of the above quote, which politician does not lie about matters great and small? Which politician did not place his/her personal interests above the national interest?
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Old 11-17-2022, 11:16 AM
 
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Leaving aside the truth or falsehood of the above quote, which politician does not lie about matters great and small?
Many of them
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Which politician did not place his/her personal interests above the national interest?
Most of them.

Trump apologists never realize this.
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Old 11-17-2022, 11:21 AM
 
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If you have posted here with me for any amount of time, you know 2 things.
1. I am very much a conservative.
2. I have defended Donald Trump consistently.

If you search my posts, you will see that I voted for him twice. I did not support him in the primary in 2016 but when I saw the POLICY, I bought in. He absolutely singularly had policy positions that no one else had and he was RIGHT.

But he lost. HE lost. Donald Trump choked right when we needed him most. The guy lost and that gave us a dingbat who has become wholly owned by the hard left wing of his party. America is currently being driven into the dirt by an idiot in charge of extremists. And it is Donald Trump's fault.

Don't tell me he was cheated. He was in charge and if that was the case, then he knew going in and he did NOTHING to expose it. He left a traitor in charge of the FBI. He didn't clean house in Justice. We are now dealing with that fallout.


So, NO Mr. Trump, I am not going to support you in the fight for the Republican Primary. I won't because you are the reason WE aren't fixing America today. Furthermore, this election cycle made it clear that YOU cost us the Red Wave. YOU. You got beat by a braindead old dude hiding in his basement. You didn't add anything to the last election cycle, but you might very well have hurt us.

I appreciate you. I am very thankful for your 4 years. You did a TON of wonderful things, and you gave us a blueprint policy wise that can build a great nation.

But your day has passed.



Sincerely,


Some Random Guy out here in America
But what happened to his positions?What happened to reviving manufacturing in the Rust Belt and putting laid-off workers in the steel industry, etc. back to work? They're still waiting...

What happened to making America great again? He suckered people into voting for him based on promises he couldn't keep, then laughed his way to the bank while requiring branches of the federal government to house official guests in his hotels.

Hot air will only get anyone so far, before people notice they're still unemployed or underemployed, still on the public dole waiting for America to get great again.
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