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Old 12-13-2022, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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Did any of this occur in the 8 years the GOP held the house and had the Senate for 6 of those years?
2013 was the direct result of the Republicans who held the House having a temper tantrum.
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Old 12-13-2022, 06:44 AM
 
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IIRC, the federal employees got paid last time. They couldn't work, but they still got paid.
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Old 12-13-2022, 06:46 AM
 
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2013 was the direct result of the Republicans who held the House having a temper tantrum.
A congressman from VA knew it was coming so he shorted dollars.

Anybody minding the store?
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Old 12-13-2022, 06:48 AM
 
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They'll shut down the national parks...everything else will be business as usual....unfortunately.
That's basically how I see it.

shutdowns are horrendously wasteful exercises in political theater. The contingency planning, the accounting shell games, the non-stop legal wrangling. A good chunk of the employees including all executives are considered "essential staff" so only the lowest paid staff get furloughed.


As ridiculous as it sounds, we might need the $1 quintillion dollar coin in the mint to pre-empt the games of brinkmanship. It would save taxpayers a large amount of money.
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Old 12-13-2022, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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We haven't had a budget in place since Obama, what was the excuse during the 4 years of the last administration which included 3 government shutdowns?

nancy pelosi rejecting budget after budget?
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Old 12-13-2022, 06:54 AM
 
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It takes two to tango. Government shutdowns are the result of BOTH parties failing to reach a compromise.
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Old 12-13-2022, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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I say let it be shut down. The question is when it is shut down does that mean that all the payouts to foreign countries stop as well or is just We the People that will feel the fallout?
Most foreign aid is a money laundering kickback scam meant to enrich the top 1%...especially DC politicians.

Americans may learn I'm right if the Biden Family Crime Syndicate investigation turns out to be real, and not a charade.

So...no...foreign aid will keep flowing, so the kickbacks do not get interrrupted.

I see every day the fed gov't shuts down, even partially, as being a great day for America.
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Old 12-13-2022, 07:06 AM
 
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Most foreign aid is a money laundering kickback scam meant to enrich the top 1%...especially DC politicians.

Americans may learn I'm right if the Biden Family Crime Syndicate investigation turns out to be real, and not a charade.

So...no...foreign aid will keep flowing, so the kickbacks do not get interrrupted.

I see every day the fed gov't shuts down, even partially, as being a great day for America.
Add in defense contractors. Much of that foreign aid is predicated on purchasing American made weapons. It's a way to keep them in business. Then the defense contractors donate to the politicians.
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Old 12-13-2022, 07:06 AM
 
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I give this fed govt ten years tops before it’s gone. The shutdowns or considerations thereof are just indicators of its failing.
Rome fell due to debasement of its currency, profligate spending, corrupt senate, infiltration of clans, weakened military (women,gays, trannies, non-citizens, furries) Any of this look familiar?
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Old 12-13-2022, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I give this fed govt ten years tops before it’s gone. The shutdowns or considerations thereof are just indicators of its failing.
Rome fell due to debasement of its currency, profligate spending, corrupt senate, infiltration of clans, weakened military (women,gays, trannies, non-citizens, furries) Any of this look familiar?
Gee Frank..... now that you mention it.....
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