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Old 02-22-2023, 10:24 AM
 
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Is that the same Babitt who was shot while part of a mob that was forcibly breaking into the Capital through a window? Spare me...
One in the same.

The "argument" seems to be that if the cops had done a better of controlling these MAGA loons, she wouldn't have been shot.
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Old 02-22-2023, 11:01 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Cops not doing their jobs? Cops failing to use crowd control measures? Really? You think that cops are at fault for being unwilling, or unable, to control these MAGA folks who were attacking the Capitol and threatening the VP, the Speaker of the House, etc. in their attempt to overturn the election?

No reason to pay attention to that nonsense.
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Is that the same Babitt who was shot while part of a mob that was forcibly breaking into the Capital through a window? Spare me...
There's plenty of video where the cops are simply standing around doing absolutely nothing, even when protesters were begging them to do something...just like Babbitt had done at least twice. Videos proving these things had been posted a number of times in this forum, perhaps you two should take the time to view them?

The cops could have quickly cleared out the area where Babbitt had been shot, before she'd been gunned down, if they'd tossed a can of pepper spray/mace into the room when those idiots first began to try to break the windows.

Were the cops instructed to not do anything and to allow the violence to happen on that day? It sure seems like it. Maybe some of the hidden video will have the answer to that question.

If the cops around the country had been as bad at their jobs in protecting the federal, local buildings and people in them then many of those buildings would have fallen to blm antifa and would have likely been burned and those inside would have been harmed or killed.
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Old 02-22-2023, 11:14 AM
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There's plenty of video where the cops are simply standing around doing absolutely nothing, even when protesters were begging them to do something...just like Babbitt had done at least twice. Videos proving these things had been posted a number of times in this forum, perhaps you two should take the time to view them?

The cops could have quickly cleared out the area where Babbitt had been shot, before she'd been gunned down, if they'd tossed a can of pepper spray/mace into the room when those idiots first began to try to break the windows.

Were the cops instructed to not do anything and to allow the violence to happen on that day? It sure seems like it. Maybe some of the hidden video will have the answer to that question.

If the cops around the country had been as bad at their jobs in protecting the federal, local buildings and people in them then many of those buildings would have fallen to blm antifa and would have likely been burned and those inside would have been harmed or killed.
There's plenty of video and picture that show this was clearly a riot and not some Sunday outing as so many like to describe it but the fact remains that she herself placed herself in the situation.
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Old 02-22-2023, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I know

If Biden murders someone in front of live television, you still would vote for him.

We already know
Lol that’s a page from Trump’s play book.

"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters," Trump said

https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/polit...ort/index.html
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Old 02-22-2023, 11:18 AM
 
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Releasing the videos to only one news outlet is wrong. They should be made available to all. Why not just post them on congress.gov for anyone to watch?

This is one of the lower tier police personnel actually trying to do his job, not privy to the decisions made by those at the elite level.

Wait what’s this?

New body cam footage from J6 w/MPD discussing how “they set us up”?

“Let them take the [Capitol]”

This is why they don’t want more J6 footage released

The fingers will all point back at Pelosi & her staff secretly weakening security

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status...26816179384324


Video at the Tweet
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Old 02-22-2023, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Tucker Carlson is one of a few guys left on tv who actually tells the truth. Liberals who refuse to watch him would be shocked how he continually bashes Republicans, in addition to calling out the lunatic left.

Tucker criticizes guys like McConnell, Lindsay Graham, and many other Republicans on a regular basis. Many won’t even come on his show.

But that’s how you know who is telling the truth. If you never criticize your own side, it means you are lying.

I like Hannity, like his message, but even I know he is nothing more than a Republican cheerleader who ignores when they do wrong. But you need a guy like him, otherwise they would quit coming on his show like they do Tucker’s show.

Anyway, whatever Tucker says on this issue, I don’t have to wonder if he is lying, because he won’t be.
Oh my, you really think Tucker doesn’t use sound bites and mix his message. Don’t confuse news from opinions of political commentators.
They all do it, but don’t ever bet on Tucker once he opens his mouth on Tv etc. he is well paid for his silver tongue.
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Old 02-22-2023, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Why would McCarthy hand over all of these tapes to one person at one channel? Sounds like he wants to put a spin on it. Isn't this some sort of Ethics or Security violation? Is this part of the compromise he had to make with those that didn't vote for him to be elected Speaker?
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Old 02-22-2023, 11:58 AM
 
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There's plenty of video and picture that show this was clearly a riot and not some Sunday outing as so many like to describe it
Yes, it had turned into a riot. Not an insurrection.
Even though it had turned into a riot, not all who were there were rioting.
And some, who'd toured Statuary Hall, did seem to have had that "Sunday outing" experience.

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but the fact remains that she herself placed herself in the situation.
Yes she did place herself in that situation.

Please tell us why she'd put herself into that window?

Since she'd been seen at least twice trying to get the cops to do something to Stop the mayhem, did she place herself into that window to keep others in the crowd from crawling through it? From the videos of her trying to fruitlessly get the cops to do something, it would appear that was the very reason why she'd crawled into that window.
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Old 02-22-2023, 12:04 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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This is one of the lower tier police personnel actually trying to do his job, not privy to the decisions made by those at the elite level.

Wait what’s this?

New body cam footage from J6 w/MPD discussing how “they set us up”?

“Let them take the [Capitol]”

This is why they don’t want more J6 footage released

The fingers will all point back at Pelosi & her staff secretly weakening security

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status...26816179384324


Video at the Tweet
Seems the cops had been told to stand down. This cop pretty much proved what the videos show, the cops were told to let it happen and not interfere.

Things like this is probably why Pelosi and the committee wanted to keep these videos hidden.

These things need to come out, and they won't with left media.
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Old 02-22-2023, 12:07 PM
Status: "Let this year be over..." (set 23 days ago)
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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Yes, it had turned into a riot. Not an insurrection.
Even though it had turned into a riot, not all who were there were rioting.
And some, who'd toured Statuary Hall, did seem to have had that "Sunday outing" experience.


Yes she did place herself in that situation.

Please tell us why she'd put herself into that window?

Since she'd been seen at least twice trying to get the cops to do something to Stop the mayhem, did she place herself into that window to keep others in the crowd from crawling through it? From the videos of her trying to fruitlessly get the cops to do something, it would appear that was the very reason why she'd crawled into that window.
Don't play word semantics riot/insurrection I'll leave that for the lawyers. All she had to do was not enter when she saw what was occurring or at the very least leave when it descended into the mayhem that was going on.
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