A heavy dose of reality for electric-truck mandates..California to Require Half of All Heavy Trucks Sold by 2035 EV (legal, accuse)
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"The Biden administration on Friday granted California the legal authority to require that half of all garbage trucks, tractor-trailers, cement mixers and other heavy vehicles sold in the state must be all-electric by 2035"
"After one trucking company tried to electrify just 30 trucks at a terminal in Joliet, Illinois, local officials shut those plans down, saying they would draw more electricity than is needed to power the entire city."
"A California company tried to electrify 12 forklifts. Not trucks, but forklifts. Local power utilities told them that's not possible."
"Today, a clean diesel truck can spend 15 minutes fueling anywhere in the country and then travel about 1,200 miles before fueling again. In contrast, today’s long-haul battery electric trucks have a range of about 150-330 miles and can take up to 10 hours to charge."
"A new, clean-diesel long-haul tractor typically costs in the range of $180,000 to $200,000. A comparable battery-electric tractor costs upwards of $480,000. That $300,000 upcharge is cost-prohibitive for the overwhelming majority of motor carriers. More than 95% of trucking companies are small businesses operating ten trucks or fewer. "
"Complying with these mandates will push many carriers out of business and tighten capacity nationwide, causing severe price inflation for all goods."
"Weight factors are another inconvenient truth. Battery-electric trucks, which run on two approx. 8,000-lb. lithium iron batteries, are far heavier than their clean-diesel counterparts. Since trucks are subject to strict federal weight limits, mandating battery-electric will decrease the payload of each truck, putting more trucks on the road and increasing both traffic congestion and tailpipe emissions."
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Originally Posted by Corrie22
"Weight factors are another inconvenient truth. Battery-electric trucks, which run on two approx. 8,000-lb. lithium iron batteries, are far heavier than their clean-diesel counterparts. Since trucks are subject to strict federal weight limits, mandating battery-electric will decrease the payload of each truck, putting more trucks on the road and increasing both traffic congestion and tailpipe emissions."
With trucks carrying capacity lowered by 15% expect your grocery bills to rise by at least that amount as these trucks are used to deliver your food to almost every supermarket in the county.
I think that these politicians make all of these proclamations without really thinking that they'll go through with it. Newsom did it with cars a year or two ago. These guys will be long long out of office by the time this gets near. When the infrastructure isn't in place or practical, they'll slowly and quietly roll back these mandates or extend them down the line.
"sold in the state". well i guess that means accept for State owned vehicles private companies will open an office in a nearby state(if they are already not a national company)buy a vehicle there and "transfer" it in to their California facility.
Meaning more costs for companies, which they will transfer to the people of California, in higher fees and less revenue for the State which will not get anything from he sale of such vehicles in State.
It ain't gonna work. But like a particularly dense child, the left has to touch the hot stove not once, but many, many times before getting the message. In fact, they probably won't get the message before getting third degree burns over 90% of their body. They not only touch the hot stove multiple times, they climb up onto the stove and roll around on it.
And the sad thing is that all the rest of us have to pay for their stupidity. Can you imagine the price of EVERYTHING if it were all distributed via electric trucks?
Another one of those arbitrary deadlines that will appease the base and can be arbitrarily lifted or moved as reality dictates.
It will do more than appease the base, it will lead to future Voters for the Democrats. I can hear it now. The Dems will keep pounding these mandates and the Reps will have to be the "bad guy" by saying that it is not possible and the Dems will accuse them of not caring about the Climate.
It is a win win for the Dems.
This mad push for all EV is stupid. Yes it works for some applications but this one size fits all approach is dumb.
I had lunch yesterday near a busy rotary and it was fun to see all the motorbikes and some classic cars finally out and about in the balmy spring weather. A simplified observation from watching all of those cars coming and going is that when it comes down to it, the person driving the smart car is happy to do so because it fits their needs whereas the guy driving the big pickup is having his needs met by his vehicle choice. We need choice to make this country work and mandating everything to electric before the technology catches up is just planning for huge supply chain issues. Then again maybe that is what they want?
With trucks carrying capacity lowered by 15% expect your grocery bills to rise by at least that amount as these trucks are used to deliver your food to almost every supermarket in the county.
no, it's much much more than 15%
to match the range of a diesel truck.....an elec truck would weight more than what is allowed for them to weigh
.....there would be no carrying capacity/cargo at all
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