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Old 05-19-2023, 09:55 PM
 
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Never heard the song, dont really like it or think its good enough to make radio play.

As for the Newark, the race riots it was the worst thing to happen to the City. The victims were white people who were forced to leave the City or be killed. Much of towns surrounding Essex county people have roots from when they and their families used to live in Newark.

As for someone who used to live in Newark, I can say it has the bones of a once great city. Nothing but thugs, drugs and gangs there now. If the City burnt down it would be a gain for the state.
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Old 05-19-2023, 10:27 PM
 
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Normally, we don't post music videos in the P&OC Forum -- but I think this one deserves special consideration:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cN6wyCHlaU
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56 years have passed since this recording came out in the summer of 1967. Newark had just erupted in rioting, and Detroit was about to follow. ABC's so-called "contemporary" (top-40-formatted) network wouldn't touch it, but my old friends at CKLW, across the border in Canada, did, and Newsweek ran a short feature on it a month or so later.

And over a half-century later, Janis Ian is still going strong.

We probably don't agree on a lot of things, but "Nice Shot, Lady!"
I have never heard this song before, despite being 62 years old. It's beautiful and speaks a truth that is still relevant today. Thank you for posting this.
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Old 05-20-2023, 04:15 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Never heard the song, dont really like it or think its good enough to make radio play.

As for the Newark, the race riots it was the worst thing to happen to the City. The victims were white people who were forced to leave the City or be killed. Much of towns surrounding Essex county people have roots from when they and their families used to live in Newark.

As for someone who used to live in Newark, I can say it has the bones of a once great city. Nothing but thugs, drugs and gangs there now. If the City burnt down it would be a gain for the state.
That video is not the original recording. The original recording that got all the radio play is better - same song, but the original is better musically.
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Old 05-20-2023, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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This song was pretty heady stuff for 1967. I remember very well what I was up to when this 45 hit the charts in June of 1967. I walked over to my favorite department store- Arlan's,and bought the 45 as soon as I heard it, but I didn't quite embrace the lyrics. Well, I was 16 at the time. The next month I bought the album and after my Dad got me an 8 track player for my high school graduation, Hey, I was rolling on in my '56 Ford!

And speaking of controversy, another song recorded by a gal who knew about cotton and knew about the Mississippi Delta released a song called "Ode To Billy Joe." Bobby Gentry hit the charts at #1 and it stayed at the top of the Billboard Charts for all of August that year while the Beatles 'Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band" were blowing minds for the album collector. I remember getting together with my high school friends every Saturday night at our local pizza joint and those lyrics got us to thinking in a big way.

Interracial relationships! It was a ways from the Monkees, Gary Lewis/Playboys, etc., etc. A long ways!

What did "Ode to Billie Joe" have to do with interracial relationships?
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Old 05-20-2023, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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Normally, we don't post music videos in the P&OC Forum -- but I think this one deserves special consideration:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cN6wyCHlaU
.
56 years have passed since this recording came out in the summer of 1967. Newark had just erupted in rioting, and Detroit was about to follow. ABC's so-called "contemporary" (top-40-formatted) network wouldn't touch it, but my old friends at CKLW, across the border in Canada, did, and Newsweek ran a short feature on it a month or so later.

And over a half-century later, Janis Ian is still going strong.

We probably don't agree on a lot of things, but "Nice Shot, Lady!"
Yep, and has aged gracefully.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ymcnG6t98

I was in college in 1967, studying engineering, so didn't have a lot of time to concentrate on a song's lyrics - it was just something pleasant playing in the background.
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Old 05-20-2023, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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I was probably 13 years old, but never remember hearing it. Truly, other than from over hearing the news about the race issues, especially coming out of Detroit, I wasn't that aware of racism being that big of an issue. I grew up in Cass County, MI. It was a final stop on the Underground Railroad. Our population was 1/3 black in our school, but the only difference in white and black there was skin color/physical features, as integration had existed for so long, farmers and factory workers were just what everyone was.

I did learn that my experience growing up was unique, and I feel very blessed to have grown up where I did, when I did and with whom I did.
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Old 05-20-2023, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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My goodness, people, I was 8 years old in 1967 and I remember hearing and liking this song. And because of some of my older relatives, I knew what lines like "she called you 'boy' instead of your name" meant. Thanks to my mother, I knew that was not a nice thing to say.

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ABC's so-called "contemporary" (top-40-formatted) network wouldn't touch it, but my old friends at CKLW, across the border in Canada, did
I wonder if CKLW is where I heard it, too. I listened to CHUM as well, and stations from Buffalo as well as local stations. So who knows?
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And over a half-century later, Janis Ian is still going strong.
She's always been fabulous.
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Never heard the song, dont really like it or think its good enough to make radio play.
Luckily for the rest of us, radio programmers did not agree.
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