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View Poll Results: Border Walls to prevent illegal immigrants
Yes 146 74.49%
No 50 25.51%
Voters: 196. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-02-2023, 06:22 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Bobdreamz View Post
Shouldn't you be blaming the Construction company instead for hiring people who aren't qualified to build homes in the first place?

Their Immigration status is irrelevant.
I blame both!

They are both equally guilty of breaking the law and both need to be held accountable. Were these illegals forced over our border to work here? Did they not know by taking a job here they were breaking the law? Illegals aren't even qualified to work here so yes their immigration status is relevant.

Why is it that you and yours only want to blame the greedy employers but never these invaders?

Last edited by Oldglory; 06-02-2023 at 06:31 AM..

 
Old 06-02-2023, 06:27 AM
 
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We should have a national vote...yes or no to building the wall. Those who vote no will be tagged to be taxed to support the illegals.

If roughly 25 million people vote no, 75% of that number would probably be the Biden* supporters and 25% of the never-Trumpers. The illegals cost the taxpayers more than $100 billion every single year. That could be 'more than' $4,000 per year tax per no voter.

What say you anti-wall peeps? Do you want illegals here so badly that you'd fork over more than $4000 per year to make that possible?
Then, to be fair, those that vote yes should be the ones taxed to build and maintain the wall.

(I don't even know which way I'd vote, tbh)
 
Old 06-02-2023, 06:28 AM
 
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So you are assuming all the illegals are physically fit men who can climb a 20 ft border wall?

Why do you think all the illegal aliens choosing the treacherous routes far out in the desert or crossing dangerous Rio Grande river instead of hopping over border at any border town like El Paso or San Luis to blend in with the local population?
Rarely has anyone made it over Trump's walls successfully without being intercepted by the Border Patrol or seriously injured. If there were several illegals jumping over any walls it's not the Trump walls! That poster is just spinning and lying!

https://apnews.com/article/675035b21...%20San%20Diego.

Man breaks both legs trying to climb over Trump's wall.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-bord...%C3%B3n%20Luna.

Pregnant teenager dies trying to climb over Trump's wall.
 
Old 06-02-2023, 06:39 AM
 
Location: U.S.
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Rarely has anyone made it over Trump's walls successfully without being intercepted by the Border Patrol or seriously injured. If there were several illegals jumping over any walls it's not the Trump walls! That poster is just spinning and lying!

https://apnews.com/article/675035b21...%20San%20Diego.

Man breaks both legs trying to climb over Trump's wall.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-bord...%C3%B3n%20Luna.

Pregnant teenager dies trying to climb over Trump's wall.
Yea - I can "google" too...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...wall-breached/

https://fox4kc.com/news/smugglers-cu...s-report-says/

They don't have to go over it when it's easier to just go through it ya know.

 
Old 06-02-2023, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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I was never in any side. However I did voted for trump . He just went crazy when people didn't voted for him again and turn into a psychophat when biden won. This is when he went to complete psychophat and sabotagin himself by creating nonsense chaos.

I do feel sorry for trump though when he was a president as some of the republican senate and obviously democrats is against on every of his plans. One thing that I do agree is building the wall. We spend more money letting illegal immigrants coming in united states than actually just building a wall. We are giving free money away to the people who are not even legal to be here and sad part is sooner or later america will be people of illegal immigrants.


Just last year


"The number of undocumented immigrant crossings at the southwest border for fiscal year 2022 topped 2.76 million, breaking the previous annual record by more than 1 million, according to Customs and Border Protection data."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/imm...king-rcna53517



This is just the soutwest border. We are not even talking about the other border of united states . This is just bad! And sadly the democrats are just letting this illegal people come in to buy votes.





"Historically, walls were used to keep invaders out. The early Chinese states built what has become known as the Great Wall to protect themselves against the nomadic groups of the Steppes. Roman Emperor Hadrian constructed a wall across the British isle separating the Roman domain from troublesome northern tribes. More recently, Israel has employed several walls along the West Bank and Gaza, as well as along its northern and southern borders, to protect itself from terrorism, smuggling, illegal immigration and other threats."



Is smarter to build border walls in united states than giving free passes to those who are not even supposed to be here in the first place .
Every country in the world seems to have a border and a policy against illegal entry....except this one.
 
Old 06-02-2023, 06:51 AM
 
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During the years of the Berlin wall. over 5,000 peoply successfully escaped. Only 140 were shot. By the same ratio, Out of five million illegal immigrants, should our border guards have shot and killed 140,000?
 
Old 06-02-2023, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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No push-pull is going to overide the wall! That's just nonsense? Will it stop illegals 100%? No, but it's already been proven where the good walls have been built they are 90% effective in doing so!

Oh, so just as long as you feel safe it's ok for illegalsto come here and steal jobs, taxes and resources from Americans or is only about you? By the way, there are terrorists and criminals getting through our border to. Still feel safe?
And that’s why I don’t care about the wall. Spend the money or don’t, folks will still be finding ways to come here, legal or not. The push and pull factors are too strong. If it makes people feel better, cool, but I feel like it’s security theater. Neither party has the gumption or the incentive to deeply fix a problem that a band aid wall couldn’t even hope to fix.

And yes, it’s the more nefarious types I fear, not the average illegal alien. To the extent that illegals steal jobs, taxes, and resources, it’s not an immediate safety issue nor do the typical illegals pose such a threat. That’s explicitly why I said the AVERAGE illegal alien, not the ones on the margin who come here with intention to do harm. I do tend to choose my words with intentionality, sucks that I have to explain it all anyway.
 
Old 06-02-2023, 07:42 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Property line fences prevent the neighbor's dog from coming into your yard: Yes Or NO.
 
Old 06-02-2023, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I wonder about the logic of those who said walls don’t work. Walls have been used for centuries to keep people out. They are still in use today including around many democrats’ homes who are against the border wall. The irony is thick as honey. It proves all they care about is grandstanding and playing politics over what is best for the country.
See any of the videos ? They can are are breached. Walls work when manned. Go back to history, they also killed those who came over. I imagine that’s ok with some of you.
But most here crying about the asylum seekers at the port of entry.
 
Old 06-02-2023, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Property line fences prevent the neighbor's dog from coming into your yard: Yes Or NO.
Some dogs are diggers. But couldn’t keep the dam cats out.
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