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Old 06-29-2023, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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True.

But top tier schools put kids in the realm of the elite of this world - it's a prime networking opportunity for life that cannot be matched by, let's say, Illinois State University.
True, but true elites are not going to waste their time with a "David Hogg". He may get into the party, but won't be invited to dance.

 
Old 06-29-2023, 10:27 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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Yeah this changes nothing, really.

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Old 06-29-2023, 10:27 AM
 
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The Ivy League will now become the Asian League schools as blacks, hispanics and yes, whites too, all come up short on meritorious admission. Whites will still be accepted though as legacy admissions as will the children of black persons who were admitted and graduated and became successful under affirmative action.
Isn’t this a wake up call? Asian culture value education.
 
Old 06-29-2023, 10:29 AM
 
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We're not even on the same page of this discussion.

I never said they become white.

What I've said is that the boost one gets from a top tier university is huge.

I find his post very confusing. He seems to be saying a minority with a degree from a ivy league school makes him white
 
Old 06-29-2023, 10:31 AM
 
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Glad to hear the Supreme Court just ended systemic racism in America!
They will probably still do it and just be more stealth about it.
 
Old 06-29-2023, 10:31 AM
 
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Dig it, my niece scored remarkably high on the LSAT (I think 168), but she is a white female, and she grew up in a wealthy zip code. Yet, she was accepted. My guess is many applicants got a similar score.

So, what was her edge?

1. She's straight - but belonged to a high school club involved in gay rights.

2. Did volunteer work two summers for Nancy Pelosi

3. After graduating UCB she went to work for the ACLU.

She's of course smart but not like her brother whose test scores were off the chart (but was never accepted into any of the Ivy league universities he applied for.)

My guess is those involved in the decision making LOVED her non-academic background.

So, when it came to other White women (and let's face it that's who she was competing against.) my niece was tough to beat.
What is interesting and not talked about much is I have Medical students that had to go similar routes to get into their State Medical schools because GPAs and test scores are so close between applicants its hard to differentiate yourself anymore with just "Merit".

I literally have Medical students rounding with my group that had published papers before entering medical school. That was Genius level Doogie Howser stuff 15-20 years ago and now it's becoming more and more frequent. Again I am talking about entering a State Medical school not even Ivy League. This is also something I hear the College of Nursing complain about as well lately, they have so many students applying before their 3rd-year undergrad applicants with near-perfect GPAs, volunteer time, research time, on and on that the old processes of looking at merit are not working anymore, it still leaves you with over 200 people for 30-40 slots each year.

The students that have to work or have something in their life outside of school that requires attention are getting pushed out even at the state level, I cannot imagine what it looks like at the Ivy League level.
 
Old 06-29-2023, 10:32 AM
 
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The value of an Ivy League school isn't so much the learning/classes, although those are certainly good, it's really access to the best professors and the other (brilliant) students. Those connections can be close and life-long, leading to amazing opportunities for future collaboration that otherwise wouldn't be possible.
 
Old 06-29-2023, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Dig it, my niece scored remarkably high on the LSAT (I think 168) and was accepted into the Havard Law Dept. However, she is a white, and she grew up in a wealthy zip code. Now, I'm sure many applicants got a top score on the LSAT so what was her edge?

1. She's straight - but belonged to a high school club involved in gay rights.

2. Did volunteer work two summers for Nancy Pelosi

3. After graduating UCB she went to work for the ACLU.

She's of course smart but not like her brother whose test scores were off the chart (but was never accepted into any of the Ivy league universities he applied for.)

My guess is those involved in the decision making LOVED her non-academic background.

So, when it came to other White women (and let's face it that's who she was competing against.) my niece was tough to beat.
lol.

My kid's own application package for undergrad was similarly sculpted - not in the overt way as your niece though. Major props to her though.
 
Old 06-29-2023, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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True, but true elites are not going to waste their time with a "David Hogg". He may get into the party, but won't be invited to dance.
I get what you're saying but JD Vance & Ron DeSantis would probably beg to differ.
 
Old 06-29-2023, 10:37 AM
 
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Republicans once again have to step in and end racist practices brought forth by the Democrats.
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