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Old 07-01-2023, 05:59 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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The biggest problem with Affirmative Action as a conversation is the belief that the black students were not qualified. That is a lie.
Only 1% of black students who take the SAT score above 1400.

The percentage of blacks that score above 1500 is even less than that.

These are uncomfortable truths that pretty much nobody wants to talk about.

 
Old 07-01-2023, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Clarence Thomas 1983

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"Clarence Thomas told staffers at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission that 'God only knows where I would be today' if not for the legal principles of equal employment opportunity measures such as affirmative action that are 'critical to minorities and women in this society,'" wrote Timothy Bella. "'These laws and their proper application are all that stand between the first 17 years of my life and the second 17 years,' Thomas, then the EEOC chairman, said in 1983. His comments were later cited in outlets including The Washington Post, the New York Times and Newsweek."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cl...acfd5f55&ei=12
 
Old 07-01-2023, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Only 1% of black students who take the SAT score above 1400.

The percentage of blacks that score above 1500 is even less than that.

These are uncomfortable truths that pretty much nobody wants to talk about.
The fact that blacks and other minorities scores are poor isn't exactly a revelation. It has been discussed.
 
Old 07-01-2023, 06:54 AM
 
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The biggest problem with Affirmative Action as a conversation is the belief that the black students were not qualified. That is a lie. Every single black person who benefited from Affirmative Action was qualified.
Qualified is irrelevant. 100% of students who graduate from high school are qualified. Saying a student is qualified is akin to saying a car has 4 wheels. It is assumed.

The issue is Universities using race as a deciding factor to ensure the student body isn't too Yellow.

The issue is the Equal Protections Clause of the 14th Amendment.

Liberals who wish to discriminate against Asians because of the color of their skin are free to launch an effort to repeal the 14th Amendment. I look forward to progressives launching such an effort.
 
Old 07-01-2023, 06:57 AM
 
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Why do progressives no longer want the college admissions procedure to be color-blind?
 
Old 07-01-2023, 07:17 AM
 
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Why do progressives no longer want the college admissions procedure to be color-blind?
Because they fear that the number of black students in our nation’s elite universities will dwindle to the single digits.
 
Old 07-01-2023, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Only 1% of black students who take the SAT score above 1400.

The percentage of blacks that score above 1500 is even less than that.

These are uncomfortable truths that pretty much nobody wants to talk about.
1. Not everyone takes the SAT, many only take the ACT

2. The number of black kids who get into elite colleges(Ivy, Southern Ivy, Midwest Ivy, West Coast Ivy) is indeed less than 1% of all black kids applying to college.

You actually proved your own point false.
 
Old 07-01-2023, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Qualified is irrelevant. 100% of students who graduate from high school are qualified
No they arent. Some colleges require foreign languages in high school, some require certain math credits, certain GPAs so on and so forth.

UNC for example(since they were part of the lawsuit)


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The UNC Board of Governors recently adopted a time-limited policy provision that allows a student to meet minimum eligibility requirements for admissions consideration. A student who earns at least a 2.5 weighted high school grade point average OR a minimum test score on either the ACT (19) or the SAT (1010) is eligible for review by any of the 16 UNC System universities. A student must still take either the ACT or the SAT to be considered for admission. All applicants must submit a valid score as part of their application to any individual institution. Please note that while these are the minimum requirements for consideration, they do not guarantee acceptance.


This shows me that you have no idea what you are talking about and have simply chosen a side and are making things up to fit your narrative
 
Old 07-01-2023, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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The fact that blacks and other minorities scores are poor isn't exactly a revelation. It has been discussed.
The problem with his post is its irrelevant and wrong in context.


1400 is the 93rd percentile overall. meaning only 7% of all takers make above that, regardless of race.
 
Old 07-01-2023, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Ive noticed all the talk about "yellowing" of colleges, but nobody talks about the blatant cheating that occurs. Having spoken to more than a dozen Asian students, it can be deduced that cheating is "a must" when it comes to SAT scores. Now im not race bashing, but we can all agree that it is much easier for a kid in a upper class neighborhood to hack the SAT than it is for hood kids.

Unfortunately, Equality doesn't exist in the real world
Cheating to get into college is so well know that it pretty much exists in all High school senior movies and every person in real life has a story about it. We have plenty of news stories about rich kids who get caught cheating too. People playing naive to this is just weird.
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