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They don't have to comply, they can choose not to sell it in California. California isn't forcing anything on any state, they're simply saying "if the sows weren't allowed to move freely in humane conditions, we don't want to buy your pork".
I think the better analogy in this case was the poster who asked if non-legal states could prosecute citizens who go to legal states to smoke pot.
Basically the same thing. Using a product or service that's illegal in the home state.
The procedure isn't crossing state lines, and neither is the way the pork is raised.
However, the results of the raising and the survivor of the abortion procedure, (the egg donor), are crossing state lines.
If California can dictate that their citizens can't buy specific pork, why can't Tennessee dictate that their citizens can't access a type of procedure that normally isn't needed to save a life, but instead takes a life?
So, more like oranges and tangerines. the product is different, but the law wouldn't see that much difference in the application of the logic behind it.
Allowing one state to dictate how another state operates, is a straight-line correlation especially when you consider that you are dealing with a citizen of the first state and that the state the citizen resides in does have in effect the duty to provide for the safety of that citizen.
Plus, if california can dictate how its citizens eat, why can't Tennessee dictate about the protection of its children?
Personally, I don't have a dog in this fight, but I don't like it when the laws aren't applied equally to all parties. What one state can do, another state can also do.
That's not what California is doing. They're dictating that such pork cannot be sold in California. They're not dictating what other states can do nor what their residents can buy in another state and bring back into California for their own personal use/consumption.
That's not what California is doing. They're dictating that such pork cannot be sold in California. They're not dictating what other states can do nor what their residents can buy in another state and bring back into California for their own personal use/consumption.
And Tennessee is just saying abortions cannot be performed in Tennessee. And by dictating how pork should be produced in another state in order to sell in california, california is in fact dictating standards that other states have to adhere to in order to provide pork to consumers in california.
The standards are fine for driving producers out of business in california if that's what they want to do, but producers in Iowa or any other state should have free access to california markets and allow the consumer to decide if they want to purchase that product or not, but they don't have that option and that should be an infringement on the commerce clause between the states, but apparently the courts see differently.
Since it's fine for california to dictate agriculture in other states, why can't Tennessee also dictate medical procedures in other states too?
Equal protection under the law right?
The product itself is not illegal. It's just illegal to sell it in California.
But it is illegal in many states like Wyoming where stoners cross over into Colorado all the time, return stoned and have car wrecks or get picked up for driving under the influence. It does have an impact that Wyoming has to deal with and pay for the consequences of someone breaking the state's law by crossing into another state to partake of an illegal substance, then bringing the problem back to Wyoming to deal with.
And actually, during prohibition, it wasn't illegal to drink alcohol, but it was illegal to sell or produce it.
Exactly. It's not going to happen and no sane person ever suggested it would. The OP just made up a ridiculously absurd "what if" scenario. There's an EXTREMELY obvious lack of jurisdiction issue.
That said, and as I've already posted, there ARE legitimate reasons WHY law enforcement agencies need to continue to be able to subpoena abortion records, with two very prominent issues being human trafficking and child rape.
If the records are needed, then the officials in one state can ask for assistance for the other state to obtain the records.
The radical forced birthers WILL seek out women who had abortions in other states and they WILL prosecute them until a court tells them to stop. In the meantime, lives are ruined, and money wasted on defending bogus charges.
If I am a district attorney, I can charge you with a crime with no basis for doing so. You will still spend $10,000 or more getting the case dismissed.
I didn't vote no because I believe abortion is a good thing. I voted no because, legally, prosecuting "state skippers" is not at all a good thing to do--it sets up a dangerous scenario. If a woman wants to murder her unborn son or daughter that badly, then it's going to be done one way or another anyway. It would be the same as telling an Aztec priest that he could not perform a child sacrifice on Altar A. He simply goes to Altar B to do it or into the woods somewhere if he is a zealot believer. Religious rituals are very hard to discourage for the "faithful." They will be performed by true believers, regardless of the legal aspect.
Utter nonsense. Total utter nonsense. This is your brain on fascist propaganda.
Well I know, that means F Joe Biden's joke of a justice department. You're not a hypocrite are you?
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