We are repeating the same history that led to the downfall of the Roman empire (racist, illegals)
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That was a small part of it. The Roman empire's fall was largely was down to eclipsing moral values, the loss of religion, and the loss of the traditional family unit. Which is exactly America now.
Well the Romans lost their religion but gained Christianity.
Gibbons blames it largely on taxation.
And they did let those 2 million Goths cross the Danube, becoming an alien entity within the empire.
You don’t need religion to have morality. The so-called “Christians” in this country are the biggest a-holes trying to turn this into Handmaid’s Tale.
Who is going to teach it to you ?
Your parents ? Your government ?
Look around at the youth today ... 6 year olds shooting their teacher, high school students beating the crap out of their teachers, organized mass looting, and "Friday night lights" is turning into "Friday night gun shots".
Bro, they bombed black churches back then, lynched people and put it on post cards and bombed city blocks on US soil to catch one drug dealer. When we’re we ever moral?
Was it when we destroyed other countries abroad in order to steal their resources? Was it when we invaded a country under false pretenses? Was it when we pushed a war on drugs that led to mass incarceration of minorities? Was it when we napalmed kids in Vietnam? Was it when assassinated black leaders?
When we’re we ever moral?
Ok..so the violin is playing..."It's always been like this".
The Germanic barbarians that invaded the Roman Empire are strikingly similar and analogous to the Latin American illegal aliens that have infiltrated the United States.
There are 42 million people currently living in the United States whose native or first language is Spanish. This number does not include bilingual (Spanish and English) speakers.
This population lives largely in their own communities, separate from where mainstream Americans live.
Those are important similarities, but that's where the similarities end. The Romans gave the Visigoths complete autonomy of the lands granted them. The Romans could not tax that land. They may have even had to ask permission to travel through it. The loss of those taxes made it even more difficult to fund faraway legions. There were other land grants and with each land grant the empire weakened.
It doesn't help that everyone hated them and their reputation for lying and breaking their word made it difficult to form new alliances.
We don't give away land free from taxation to illegal aliens, but we sure spent our treasure to support them.
Illegal aliens don't belong in the United States, regardless of their nationality or background.
Only the foreign nationals who are legally authorized to come into this country should be allowed to live here.
I'm pretty sure that's what the French, Germans, Israelis etc said about the Roman occupiers, but there is no comparison, because Romans went in with military force and took what they wanted, including slaves and made those lands part of the empire. I guess we did that with Texas, California, etc but thats a different story.
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Originally Posted by TMSRetired
Ok..so the violin is playing..."It's always been like this".
You don’t need religion to have morality. The so-called “Christians” in this country are the biggest a-holes trying to turn this into Handmaid’s Tale.
Good grief. There's that analogy only used by the functionally illiterate, again.
In the Handmaid's Tale, women were FORCED to have unprotected sex. Here, in the US, women CHOOSE to have unprotected sex. BIG difference.
95% of unintended pregnancies in the US are due to women voluntarily participating in unprotected sex during the cycle in which they conceived, by their own admission (Guttmacher). They're choosing to have unprotected sex themselves, the exact OPPOSITE of what happens in Handmaid's Tale.
Their body their choice. Thus their choice to abort.
They already made the choice to have unprotected sex. They don't get to KILL another human being just because they're unhappy with the consequences of their own voluntary actions.
They already made the choice to have unprotected sex. They don't get to KILL another human being just because they're unhappy with the consequences of their own voluntary actions.
Good thing developing fetuses aren't human beings then.
“ “The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It’s almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe.
Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn. — Pastor Dave Barnhart
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Also, this is a fetus during the common stages of abortion:
If that was on your wall you’d use 409 on it.
Late term exists but that’s rare, and often the mother wanted it. Which is why she kept it for that long. But unfortunately had medical complications…
All you have to do to determine a developing baby is a human life is to ask yourself, what happens to the developing baby after it's aborted? Does it continue to grow and develop after it's aborted? Or does it die? It dies. Therefore, it was once a human life. Abortion kills a human life.
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