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Old 10-06-2023, 08:55 AM
 
Location: NYC
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This is all Biden's fault. Real Americans demand a recession now.
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Old 10-06-2023, 09:09 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Bidenomics is working!
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Old 10-06-2023, 09:41 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Old 10-06-2023, 09:44 AM
 
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Hunter should have no problem finding a job then
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Old 10-06-2023, 09:56 AM
 
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... gas prices are falling like a rock and that will show up in the next inflation report. I think they will sit out the next meeting and see where things go from here.
Falling Gas prices is a good point ...and will be a factor when the Feds meet 3 weeks from now to discuss interest rates.

Perhaps they don't raise rates next time if gas prices show inflation taming, or perhaps they raise rates by a lower amount.

Today's jobs numbers give the Feds a higher possibility of raising interest rates but perhaps gas prices will tamper that possibility.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/rate...ld-2023-10-06/
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Old 10-06-2023, 09:58 AM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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It is always good news if jobs are added. Hope the stat sticks when revised.

Not sure why anyone would think adding jobs is bad. I'm all for growth and a better economy. Inflation sucks, but gotta look at some good news too.
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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According to this: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t01.htm

Employment is down 99,000 from last year and unemployment is up 311,000 from last year.
I'm not sure what number you're reading. From your link:

Not seasonally adjusted - Employed:
September 2022: 159,003,000
September 2023: 161,669,000
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A gain of 2,666,000

Not seasonally adjusted - Unemployed:
September 2022: 5,460,000
September 2023: 6,049,000
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A gain of 589,000

So while it's true the # of unemployed has gone up, the number of employed has gone up by 4.5 times more.
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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You can bet if the jobs report was bad they would be all over this thread crowing about Biden's economy.
Meh, if the jobs report is good they will just get on here claiming that Biden's people are "cooking" the books. They will also talk about part time jobs and J-6. And of course they will mention that all the jobs are weak "service industry" jobs and fast food jobs.

This is basically a "SOSDMonth" exercise for the righties.
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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This is what happens when you don’t rip the bandaid off.

Interest rate hikes, here we come.


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Inflation sucks, but gotta look at some good news too.
Well it can’t be both, if inflation sucks then new jobs are not good.

If job growth is good news, then inflation is great. You can’t have it both ways.
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Old 10-06-2023, 10:36 AM
 
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It is always good news if jobs are added. Hope the stat sticks when revised.

Not sure why anyone would think adding jobs is bad. I'm all for growth and a better economy. Inflation sucks, but gotta look at some good news too.
Adding jobs is good in itself. But if unemployment gets too low, it is bad. Because then companies have to pay higher wages to find workers.

Higher wages are also good in itself. But companies have to pass on the cost of those higher wages to the consumer; ie higher prices (inflation).

Maybe price inflation isn't so bad if its matched by wage inflation. But the Fed has a goal of keeping inflation at 2%. Their main tool to do so is to raise interest rates.

Maybe higher interest rates aren't such a bad thing; you pay more to borrow, but you can earn more on your savings. But higher interest rates make bonds more attractive than stocks, thus the stock market goes down. New bonds are now more attractive than old ones, so the bond market also declines.

So in summary: a good thing (more jobs) can result in higher prices, higher interest rates and a declining stock market.
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