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That is when I decided never to vote either side of a dung sandwich ever again.
The liberals in Seattle, who were holding signs and protesting loudly about 'No Blood For Oil' were actually right. I was wrong. It was blood for oil. That's all it was.
Oh, and on a personal note, when I was a kid, I never thought I would make it to the age of 30. That was during the Cold War and the threat of nuclear war. Well, I did, and I sat there in disbelief on my 30th birthday. "I can't believe I made it." That's what I kept saying, the whole day.
Me too… didnt think I’d make it to 50, but for very different reasons. I turned 50 last week.
I was wrong about Liberal thinking. I thought they thought, reasoned, & learned just like everyone else, but had different opinions on issues, life experiences, & educational backgrounds.
I was wrong.
Their brains do not function the same as everyone else's. They don't reason in the same way...using mostly logic, past experiences, & teachings....
Their own emotions are at the core of how they process information. It's the filter in how they see the World, & how they make decisions. Their own self-actualization, preservation, awareness, and worth, are also emotionaly-based.
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This used to be the conventional wisdom - that liberals were more emotional ("bleeding heart") and conservatives were more pragmatic. But I find that today's republicans are as much or more emotion-driven. They routinely express hatred, fear, disgust and ridicule of others to justify their political positions. Immigrants are filthy criminals, transsexuals are deviant freaks and democrats are marxists bent on destroying America.
I'm the opposite. For most of my life, I considered myself an anti-Zionist. I scoffed my way through Birthright while reading exclusively anti-Israel scholarly works and promptly went to Palestine at the end of my trip. In recent years, I realized I wasn't reading enough of a well-rounded look at the region and I stopped seeing "Zionist" as a dirty word.
A few things still hold true for me: Netanyahu is a criminal who deserves to be taken out back and shot, the settlers in the West Bank should be removed - dragged out by their ears while a crowd yells "shame!" ideally - with no recompense, and people who are not Jewish but make being a Zionist part of their identity are no friends to the Jews.
Since October 7, I realized that I was wrong about antisemitism on the left. I had always experienced antisemitism from the right and most of my political spaces are primarily Jewish so I was insulated. Since October, it's become clear to me how antiZionism (which is different than criticism of Israel) is rooted in antisemitism.
I never had any firm thoughts on Zionism, having never studied it. Except I was in the broad general agreement that a Jewish state should exist. When I was young, my mother tried to enroll me in Jewish sunday school. But I hated it, and stopped going after a few times. Pretty much throughout my younger life, I just wanted to fit in with my American friends, and any hint of difference I tried to downplay.
It was only in college that I began taking interest. I took Israeli citizenship (and Hungarian citizenship, also through my mother) during this time. Made many trips. But still, I had only a cursory knowledge of the region, and unsurprisingly it was all the Israeli side as I wasn't motivated to do any research (I had other priorities). Like you, I went to "Palestine" (West Bank in my case, never went to Gaza). But without the proper research and the fact people tend to be none confrontational and don't discuss politics, I cannot say I got much out of that experience except observing the numerous checkpoints and feeling a tad bit "weird" about that.
Anyways, since doing a deep dive into the matter, it has changed my entire perspective. Oct 7 shocked me enough out of my slumber. At first I wanted to understand why those people (Hamas/Palestinians) could do something so barbaric, which led to me down this rabbit hole (not to mention that most of the horrific stories around Oct 7 turned out to be fabrications of someone's twisted imagination).
Has there been 1 liberal on here who admitted they were wrong?
Doubtful. They will never admit they were wrong about allowing men to self-identify as women, which is a biological construct, yet drawing the line at people of color self-identifying as a different race, which is a social construct.
Apparently the human body makes mistakes when it comes to sex, but not race.
Has there been 1 liberal on here who admitted they were wrong?
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I dunno. Has there?
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In post #98 I talked about how I stated that no way would Trump ever become President. Obviously I was wrong.
Yep. xray731 just hasn't bothered to look. I posted about a few things that I have been wrong about, none of them really very political.
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Doubtful. They will never admit they were wrong about allowing men to self-identify as women, which is a biological construct, yet drawing the line at people of color self-identifying as a different race, which is a social construct.
Apparently the human body makes mistakes when it comes to sex, but not race.
I didn't believe Biden was this mentally compromised. Boy was I wrong. Its amazing he has made it this far
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